Re: Team v cas : Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:23 pm  

Look at the metres made in league express as a team we made less than 900! Our half back pairing who are more runners than play makers made 29m between em so clearly not playing to their strengths

Horrendous stats and imo shows we lack punch in the forwards without big Dave

Re: Team v cas : Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:00 pm  

Upanunder wrote:

No you're not, Pauli did go well, I dunno what the crit for him is all about tbh.
Dunno about mom but he did his bit in a clunky team.


You read that list and wonder why we aren't getting blown off the park.
Surely that is a 40+ point hammering, more likely its a slight exaggeration.
I dunno, there wasn't really much between the sides, definitely not 20 points anyway.
The stats may say different but watching it back its just little bits and pieces here and there that accumulate, a compound of mistakes/poor reffing/end of sets/game management.
It doesn't make us poor, it just means we aren't giving ourselves the opportunity to win.
As always the criticism here is ridiculously harsh, I know its a forum populated by extremists but who actually thought we'd go to Cas and win, who has won at Cas this season ?
Its frustrating I know, frustrating because we know this team can go to Cas and win.
Despite the obvious effort, clearly it just isn't coming together for us atm.

I agree with that bit mate, you only conceded 3 tries, not much to rectify in defence. Its the attack that seemed woeful on Friday night. It will be interesting to see the stats for metres made by the respective forwards. Watts, Millington and Moors all seemed to drive on for another 10 meters after the initial contact and landed on their front with a subsequent quick PTB. Where as wakey's forwards seemed to almost give themselves up on contact, Pauli being the exception

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:33 am  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

I agree with that bit mate, you only conceded 3 tries, not much to rectify in defence. Its the attack that seemed woeful on Friday night. It will be interesting to see the stats for metres made by the respective forwards. Watts, Millington and Moors all seemed to drive on for another 10 meters after the initial contact and landed on their front with a subsequent quick PTB. Where as wakey's forwards seemed to almost give themselves up on contact, Pauli being the exception

Watts did over 180m and McMeeken and Sene Lafao over 120m. Pauli was our best forward and managed 89m some of the others had pitiful numbers

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:08 am  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Watts did over 180m and McMeeken and Sene Lafao over 120m. Pauli was our best forward and managed 89m some of the others had pitiful numbers

And Pauli played all 80 mins

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:04 pm  

newgroundb4wakey wrote:

I agree with that bit mate, you only conceded 3 tries, not much to rectify in defence. Its the attack that seemed woeful on Friday night. It will be interesting to see the stats for metres made by the respective forwards. Watts, Millington and Moors all seemed to drive on for another 10 meters after the initial contact and landed on their front with a subsequent quick PTB. Where as wakey's forwards seemed to almost give themselves up on contact, Pauli being the exception

Can't argue with that at all.
But I think we to be careful we don't blame the forwards in isolation, its a team thing, the forwards need direction, they need a plan and somebody to implement it.
There's nothing wrong with our pack, they're as good as anybody's, but there's a lack of organization which ends up with drives being compromised before they've started, lost collision = no platform, no momentum = flat lines 5 and a kick without troubling the opposition.
Can't leave it to the backs to pull something daft out the hat to get us on the front foot, but that's what it is atm.

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:13 pm  

Our forwards are stood when receiving the ball most of the time,not running onto the ball .They then get tackled before building any momentum up ,which ends up putting the team on the back foot all too often this season .

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Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:48 pm  

I'd also say Cas defence was excellent. They shut us down from all angles.

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:07 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

Our forwards are stood when receiving the ball most of the time,not running onto the ball .They then get tackled before building any momentum up ,which ends up putting the team on the back foot all too often this season .

That comment really does come home when you watch an NRL game. the forwards over there absolutely steam onto the ball at full pace and give themselves room to run on to the ball. All ours tend to be a bit stationary when they receive then set off, but by then the oppo defensive line is already on them. To me, it must be a coaching error in training that needs sorting and lets be honest about all the things that coaches work on this should be a simple fix. Tbh at this level it should be second nature. I don't know why the props aren't giving themselves an extra 2/3 meters to get up to speed before they take the short pass.

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:26 pm  

don't matter how much ball we had - we can not score tries from inside our own 20 we look legless

Re: Team v cas : Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:48 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Watts did over 180m and McMeeken and Sene Lafao over 120m. Pauli was our best forward and managed 89m some of the others had pitiful numbers

I've seen the stats now Tricky but the one thing that really surprised me was that Keegan Hirst only made 3 carries. Even if you add on the twice he knocked on that would only have been 5 carries. Having said that I'm not sure who does the counting as pauli seemed to to a lot more than 11 carries.