Re: HKR next up. : Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:01 pm  

Redscat wrote:

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Brian Jones dispelled that theory 52 years ago, vasty. RIP Charlie Watts

Sort of but because he died so young he’s become kind of immortal or at least forever young. As Keef says in his book, Jones was never destined to get old.

Re: HKR next up. : Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:03 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

But no matter how long they go on it's still Jagger, Richards Jones, Watts and Whyman that remain The Stones. Ronnie Wood is never really more than a long standing session guy.

Without doubt, but musically they were probably at their best with Mick Taylor.

Sorry non Stones fans, back to RL.

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Re: HKR next up. : Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:39 pm  

There is really not much else to say about the Hull KR game so there's no harm in a little Stones divergence. Fun to read.

Re: HKR next up. : Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:27 pm  

vastman wrote:

Without doubt, but musically they were probably at their best with Mick Taylor.

It may offend purists but I have to agree with you on that. It's a real shame that when you mention Mick Taylor (yet another John Mayall product) people say "Who?". The whole rhythm section backing was so tight and solid.

Re: HKR next up. : Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:28 pm  

Saw the Stones in 1965 at Leeds Odeon. Ticket for seats five rows from front cost 12/6 (62,5p): saw them at Old Trafford, Manchester on their last tour, ticket price £100. Inflation or what?????

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Re: HKR next up. : Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:19 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Saw the Stones in 1965 at Leeds Odeon. Ticket for seats five rows from front cost 12/6 (62,5p): saw them at Old Trafford, Manchester on their last tour, ticket price £100. Inflation or what?????

Was 12/6 regarded as an expensive ticket in 65?
Average annual wage then was about £1,000

Re: HKR next up. : Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:36 am  

sandcat20 wrote:

It may offend purists but I have to agree with you on that. It's a real shame that when you mention Mick Taylor (yet another John Mayall product) people say "Who?". The whole rhythm section backing was so tight and solid.

The Stones more than any other sixties band continually developed, something they get little credit for.

They started off as an R&B band.

Became a brilliant pop band, see Satisfaction and Get off my cloud.

Made a fairly decent stab at Flower power before seeing the light.

It wasn’t the Kinks who invented rock or the Stones but IMO the first genuine rock song to break out into the charts was Jumpin Jack flash, record company thought it was too rough to get in the charts, it was a number one.

The Stones were most definitely the first band to perfect the rock album, pre dating Zepplin by a good year. Beggars banquet, Let it bleed, Exile, Sticky fingers and the criminally understated Goats head soup, all mainly featuring Taylor’s brilliant lead.

Great talent was Taylor but almost as frail as Jones but at least he knew when to get out.

Re: HKR next up. : Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:41 am  

PopTart wrote:

Was 12/6 regarded as an expensive ticket in 65?
Average annual wage then was about £1,000

The cost of a concert ticket has gone up far more than inflation,

However as someone who first saw bands in the late seventies you do get a lot more of a show.

1965, on average the Stones were on stage for about 35 mins, these days it’s 2 hours like most bands. Also you can hear them now and see them.

I’m sure Redcats factored that in

Re: HKR next up. : Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:19 am  

No one makes money from record sales / streaming (apart from the label) which is why gigs are expensive these days. Its the only way they can make any money.

Re: HKR next up. : Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:25 am  

charlie wrote:

No one makes money from record sales / streaming (apart from the label) which is why gigs are expensive these days. Its the only way they can make any money.

Stones and a few other premier bands do still make money on records but nowhere near what they once did. Playing live and merchandise are without doubt the big earners.

However in defence most band attempt to offer as much VFM as they can these days. As I say I remember gigs in the eighties where band that actually could play live did so as if it were a massive inconvenience.