Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:16 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Winning 4 games in a whole season would strongly suggest that he isn't a good coach. Getting knocked out of the chwllenge cup in the first round they played would strongly suggest he isnt a good coach. Leading the team who had the most nillings ever in Super League would strongly suggest he isn't a good coach. Getting your home team club relegated in your first season would strongly suggest he isn't a good coach.

I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, but he is the worst coach in Super League and club history

Sure you know more than Sculthorpe you know a lot less than me though

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:17 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Winning 4 games in a whole season would strongly suggest that he isn't a good coach. Getting knocked out of the chwllenge cup in the first round they played would strongly suggest he isnt a good coach. Leading the team who had the most nillings ever in Super League would strongly suggest he isn't a good coach. Getting your home team club relegated in your first season would strongly suggest he isn't a good coach.

I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, but he is the worst coach in Super League and club history

Sure you know more than Sculthorpe you know a lot less than me though

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:52 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, but he is the worst coach in Super League and club history

Surely that's Tony Anderson's badge?

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:05 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Surely that's Tony Anderson's badge?

Close, but I think Applegarth has taken over. Anderson came in 2002 and saved Fax from relegation in his first season, and while they may have lost a couple more games in 2003 than us this season, they weren't nilled as many times.

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:49 am  

Egg Banjo wrote:

Close, but I think Applegarth has taken over. Anderson came in 2002 and saved Fax from relegation in his first season, and while they may have lost a couple more games in 2003 than us this season, they weren't nilled as many times.

. Ply W D L F A Diff Pts

Fax 27 1 0 26 372 1227 -855 0* (*Fax lost the 2 Pts for Salary Cap Breach I think)
Trin 26 4 0* 22 291 686 -686 8* (* We had 3 draws so could have been 9 pts)

Anyway up if you solely blame a coach for the results Anderson was worse.

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:32 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

. Ply W D L F A Diff Pts

Fax 27 1 0 26 372 1227 -855 0* (*Fax lost the 2 Pts for Salary Cap Breach I think)
Trin 26 4 0* 22 291 686 -686 8* (* We had 3 draws so could have been 9 pts)

Anyway up if you solely blame a coach for the results Anderson was worse.

An average of 11 points for has really killed us this year, and by far and away has been the main issue Applegarth hasn't been able to resolve. He stays next year any enthusiasm I have for a fresh start will have dissipated, along with the suggestion that we'll be utilising the dual reg/loan market (although why Carter is commenting on that I dont know).

Leigh have shown the way to go, and if Ellis takes over we need quality, not cast offs.

Eitherway I'll still be the next February/March.

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:45 am  

PopTart wrote:

I don't go in for the 'he's rubbish because of the result'. There are loads of things that affect the result, injuries in particular at the beginning of the season

However, at the Shareholder meetings, Mash said he didn't want to talk about individual players, and possibly right to do it, but I'd like to know

1) why could Fifita arriving improve Atoni's performance, but you and no one else including Atoni himself could do it
2) why play Proctor when he either can't do more than 35 minutes at best and 15 at worst. Who's decision was it not to come back on, Proctor or Mash.
3) who's decision was it to sign Proctor?

These 3 question pretty much frame up my take on the car crash if a season. Answer these and you answer what is wrong with the club.

[PopTart]

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:59 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

An average of 11 points for has really killed us this year, and by far and away has been the main issue Applegarth hasn't been able to resolve. He stays next year any enthusiasm I have for a fresh start will have dissipated, along with the suggestion that we'll be utilising the dual reg/loan market (although why Carter is commenting on that I dont know).

Leigh have shown the way to go, and if Ellis takes over we need quality, not cast offs.

Eitherway I'll still be the next February/March.

You are correct that not being able to score points has killed us......but it was not unsolved, it just came too late.
First 13 league games we averaged 6 points per game.
Second 13 league games we averaged 16 points per game.

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:36 am  

If Sculthorpe thinks he’s a good coach, then maybe he wouldn’t mind seeing him be the next coach of St Helens then.

Re: Thank you Mr Applegarth : Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:49 am  

He’s not a good coach and no amount of statistical manipulation, bending of theoretical physics, barrage of celebrity PR announcements or sympathy searching statements from Carter & Minards will change the lived experience of fans and players alike during this monstrosity of a season!