Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:59 am  

miamivice wrote:

i would like to wakefield use the money we are not paying terry to pay for a test, or series of tests for all of our players. i believe that this would help us in the community and hopefully (?) prove that no other wakfield player was taking drugs. it would show wakefields stance on drugs and hopefully go a long way to isolate the club from the incident.

This wouldn't really work though would it, unless you didn't tell the players that you were going to do it, and sprung it on them after a match or training session. If, (and there are no accusations here!) any player was taking anything, they could simply stop before the 'drug test' was going to take place if they knew about it.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:46 am  

EmmaMur01 wrote:

This wouldn't really work though would it, unless you didn't tell the players that you were going to do it, and sprung it on them after a match or training session. If, (and there are no accusations here!) any player was taking anything, they could simply stop before the 'drug test' was going to take place if they knew about it.

IMHO...before i get attacked from other posters...i think if you went to every superleague club and gave them tests without them knowing ..there would possibly be a list of players in the same situation as Mr Newton...

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:54 am  

EmmaMur01 wrote:

This wouldn't really work though would it, unless you didn't tell the players that you were going to do it, and sprung it on them after a match or training session. If, (and there are no accusations here!) any player was taking anything, they could simply stop before the 'drug test' was going to take place if they knew about it.

Don't think it's quite as simple as that,I think PE drugs stay in your system for some time.

Think the media knew about this,League weekly said something along the lines of 'Bad news usually comes in three's,we've had the Huddersfield rape allegations,Catalans players fighting,keep your eyes on the papers this week'.They weren't wrong!
For what it's worth i'd suggest Wakey are blameless in this particular dilemma,I think TN's brought this with him.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:28 am  

dont know why these leeds rhinos are all getting upset we all know they all have there heads up there own arses and have been sniffing poop for years and we have never complained

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:53 am  

Bring young Davey through and buy another prop with the spare cash that will do me. It maybe a sad end to a really good career. Bet Terry is kicking himself as he was looking forward so much to be a TRIN player and doing well for us.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:40 pm  

The really "very silly" thing about this whole sorry story is that for some reason it will take 8 weeks to resolve. This sadly amongst other things allows far to much time for mindless speculation and character assasination to take place.

This is no great issue if guilty, but if innocent it's a slur to his playing career that he will probably never get over. If this is the case then the only silly thing TN is guilty of is peeing into a bottle when requested.

The whole thing has farce written all over it, guilty or not.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:00 pm  

vastman wrote:

The really "very silly" thing about this whole sorry story is that for some reason it will take 8 weeks to resolve. This sadly amongst other things allows far to much time for mindless speculation and character assasination to take place.

This is no great issue if guilty, but if innocent it's a slur to his playing career that he will probably never get over. If this is the case then the only silly thing TN is guilty of is peeing into a bottle when requested.

The whole thing has farce written all over it, guilty or not.

indeed. 8 weeks is a joke. speaking generally people need to remember that it's not a black and white issue there is a lot of grey inbetween. if you read the barnett piece he was banned for having amounts of whatever in his system of iirc 5.3, when the limit was 4. previously the limit had been 6 but been changed. so if he'd have been tested earlier he may very well not have failed. i appreciate i haven't been very succinct but you get my drift . it is not an exact science as far as i can tell and there will be situations where cheats get away with it when tested and those who may be innocent banned.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:18 pm  

desmond decker wrote:

dont know why these leeds rhinos are all getting upset we all know they all have there heads up there own arses and have been sniffing poop for years and we have never complained

I aint getting upset........it isn't our player. I am merely commenting on a topic on a public forum that has dominated the RL world this week.

Dont let that stop your bizzare commenting though.

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:38 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

Bring young Davey through and buy another prop with the spare cash that will do me. It maybe a sad end to a really good career. Bet Terry is kicking himself as he was looking forward so much to be a TRIN player and doing well for us.

too early for Davey , it could wreck 2 careers if rushed.. we have a few players as options that kear could put on the bench. Blanch is ready to return as is blymire , Johnson , king ect .

Re: Terry Newton has been provisionally suspended : Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:14 pm  

Having worked at the club as one of the physios I still have the RFL Anti-doping Booklet (100% ME) from a couple of years ago. This booklet is given out to all players of all levels.

It clearly states that the player is responsible and NOBODY else - not the Club, not the Club Doctor, not the Physio and not the GP. The player himself is responsible for checking the status of any substance, medication and supplement, whether prescribed or not, before they use it.

The list of safe medications for various conditions is in this booklet as is the list of prohibited substances ... and this is updated at regular intervals.

So IF found guilty nobody else is to blame, or be used in mitigation, but the player himself.