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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:23 am  
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the council are also happy to wave good bye to the pay as you play golf courses, fishing, tennis, bowls etc. under the name of 'budget cuts'.


I don't imagine they are happy - but this is the reality of austerity Britain; 8 years of Tory/Coalition cuts to LA budgets, has seen them forced to cut their spending to public services, social care, schools and of course libraries, parks and leisure facilities. Risky to talk politics, but it's important to understand the bigger picture - and they are just facts, without any party political spin.
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:01 am  
Something that hasn't been mentioned is, I wonder how many construction jobs a Stadium would bring to this area
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:21 am  
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I don't imagine they are happy - but this is the reality of austerity Britain; 8 years of Tory/Coalition cuts to LA budgets, has seen them forced to cut their spending to public services, social care, schools and of course libraries, parks and leisure facilities. Risky to talk politics, but it's important to understand the bigger picture - and they are just facts, without any party political spin.


This will be the same austerity Britain that sees Gateshead building a new 18000 seat arena alongside The Sage and only 1 mile from Newcastle Arena.

Nothing to do with austerity and everything to do with political will and vision for a positive future for the city.
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:26 am  
Plenty of political will and vision for the future over in cas
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:19 pm  
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This will be the same austerity Britain that sees Gateshead building a new 18000 seat arena alongside The Sage and only 1 mile from Newcastle Arena.

Nothing to do with austerity and everything to do with political will and vision for a positive future for the city.

Will be mainly financed by private developers and various grants, will replace current arena. If only Wakefield council could encourage such investment :SILENCE:
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:22 pm  
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This will be the same austerity Britain that sees Gateshead building a new 18000 seat arena alongside The Sage and only 1 mile from Newcastle Arena.

Nothing to do with austerity and everything to do with political will and vision for a positive future for the city.


I don't know anything about how those developments were funded; wouldn't it be ironic if some European money was involved...? But I doubt the LA paid for it?

I'm in no way making excuses for WMDC - I agree that we are in a shameful position in the City in terms of sports and leisure facilities and are badly served by a leader who appears to direct his efforts based on self-interest and positive PR; but the comment I was replying to was about the wider picture in terms of LA budget cuts - which are just a reality - the settlement for LA's from central government has gone down year on year, hence the disappearance of many services and facilities.

On the point of political will - I tend to agree that there are plenty of things WMDC could do, short of paying for the thing, to get it moving; but they seem unwilling. Mr Box spent 2 years simply saying that it was nothing to do with the Council, only to change his tune when the national media got hold of it - once that died down, so did his commitment to getting a stadium built.
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:23 pm  
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Plenty of political will and vision for the future over in cas

I wonder why that is
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:33 pm  
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This will be the same austerity Britain that sees Gateshead building a new 18000 seat arena alongside The Sage and only 1 mile from Newcastle Arena.

Nothing to do with austerity and everything to do with political will and vision for a positive future for the city.

Correct. Scarborough FC, York City Knights and a plethora of other projects have occurred. This could be done if WMDC wanted it done
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:35 pm  
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I don't know anything about how those developments were funded; wouldn't it be ironic if some European money was involved...? But I doubt the LA paid for it?

I'm in no way making excuses for WMDC - I agree that we are in a shameful position in the City in terms of sports and leisure facilities and are badly served by a leader who appears to direct his efforts based on self-interest and positive PR; but the comment I was replying to was about the wider picture in terms of LA budget cuts - which are just a reality - the settlement for LA's from central government has gone down year on year, hence the disappearance of many services and facilities.

On the point of political will - I tend to agree that there are plenty of things WMDC could do, short of paying for the thing, to get it moving; but they seem unwilling. Mr Box spent 2 years simply saying that it was nothing to do with the Council, only to change his tune when the national media got hold of it - once that died down, so did his commitment to getting a stadium built.

Scarborough funded largely by Scarborough Council and also from Funding from the FA Football Foundation grants system. But mainly the Council. An 18 million project
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Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:18 pm  
bren2k wrote:
I don't imagine they are happy - but this is the reality of austerity Britain; 8 years of Tory/Coalition cuts to LA budgets, has seen them forced to cut their spending to public services, social care, schools and of course libraries, parks and leisure facilities. Risky to talk politics, but it's important to understand the bigger picture - and they are just facts, without any party political spin.



For me if you want to look at the bigger picture you need mention Tony Blairs government
Under labour he built a boom and bust economy which we are all now paying for
It wouldn't matter who was in power now
If you build an economy on debt eventually some one has to pay for it
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