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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:44 pm  
Like it or not the tory party have an unbelievable opportunity to bring the country together while showing support to the northern areas not normally associated with the tory vote. It will require a total shift in policies and alot more arm twisting within the party.
I just can not see the Tories taking the time and effort in general but if they do and deliver they could be in power for some considerable time.
5 years to show the voters they can change and deliver., or 5 years to mickey people of and blow it. I know were my moneys going.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:03 pm  
Friday 13 December
Super-rich family buy £65m house after Johnson's victory.
Investors and the very wealthy celebrate the Conservatives’ 80-seat majority.
The collective wealth of the UK’s 16 billionaires on the Bloomberg billionaires index of the world’s 500 richest people increased by £2.1bn on Friday, according to Bloomberg, as the share prices of companies they controlled soared.
Excellent news. Now Britain can finally move forward, both with Brexit and with securing stability and economic growth for our great nation.

Saturday 14 December
Boris Johnson announces plans for spending spree in north.
Johnson: UK embarking on 'wonderful adventure'.

Monday 16 December
Johnson to tell new Tory MPs they must repay public’s trust.
Boris Johnson's tax plans face squeeze as public finances worsen.
OBR forecast means tax rises rather than tax cuts will be needed, say analysts.

Tuesday 17 December
Markets fear cliff-edge in December 2020.
UK company shares fall as markets face Brexit reality.
Pound tumbles amid Brexit cliff-edge fears; wage growth slows.
Johnson's Brexit threat has scrooged the pound.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:25 pm  
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Friday 13 December
Super-rich family buy £65m house after Johnson's victory.
Investors and the very wealthy celebrate the Conservatives’ 80-seat majority.
The collective wealth of the UK’s 16 billionaires on the Bloomberg billionaires index of the world’s 500 richest people increased by £2.1bn on Friday, according to Bloomberg, as the share prices of companies they controlled soared.
Excellent news. Now Britain can finally move forward, both with Brexit and with securing stability and economic growth for our great nation.

Saturday 14 December
Boris Johnson announces plans for spending spree in north.
Johnson: UK embarking on 'wonderful adventure'.

Monday 16 December
Johnson to tell new Tory MPs they must repay public’s trust.
Boris Johnson's tax plans face squeeze as public finances worsen.
OBR forecast means tax rises rather than tax cuts will be needed, say analysts.

Tuesday 17 December
Markets fear cliff-edge in December 2020.
UK company shares fall as markets face Brexit reality.
Pound tumbles amid Brexit cliff-edge fears; wage growth slows.
Johnson's Brexit threat has scrooged the pound.

You forgot to mention Scotland’s SNP leader raking in over 5 million pounds from the sale of a broadband company he had shares. Friday was the day when all things financial went sky high. Those in the establishment know how to play the money game, whatever politics they spout.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:41 pm  
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Like it or not the tory party have an unbelievable opportunity to bring the country together while showing support to the northern areas not normally associated with the tory vote. It will require a total shift in policies and alot more arm twisting within the party.
I just can not see the Tories taking the time and effort in general but if they do and deliver they could be in power for some considerable time.
5 years to show the voters they can change and deliver., or 5 years to mickey people of and blow it. I know were my moneys going.


Why would they bother doing that given they've spent the last 9 years slashing and burning everything the working classes rely on yet still got voted back in, to a large extent by them?! Surely logic would suggest they'd carry on doing more of the same to the masochistic Northern electorate?! 'No new policies needed here' I hear Cummings opine, just give the t****s more of the same!
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:00 pm  
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Why would they bother doing that given they've spent the last 9 years slashing and burning everything the working classes rely on yet still got voted back in, to a large extent by them?! Surely logic would suggest they'd carry on doing more of the same to the masochistic Northern electorate?! 'No new policies needed here' I hear Cummings opine, just give the t****s more of the same!


Absolutely. Turn it up to 11.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:57 pm  
Actually although Cummings is an unpleasant character, he will be a positive influence on Johnson in some ways.

He isn't a Conservative and he isn't part of the posh toff Tory set. He's not the type who is trying to suck up to people to get a peerage or place in the House of Lords, he craves power and the chance to put his ideas on how the UK should be run in practice.

As he is unelected, completely willing to break the law, and willing to bully and fall out with anyone to get his way, this is a terrifying prospect. But he does also have some interesting ideas and a lot of his frustrations are on the way the traditional backscratching establishment has governed the country. Also he isn't really someone who is 'bought' by lobby groups and owes favours - he tends to be the one doing the manipulating of others.

If he gets his way, expect a lot more focus on science and innovation and a reduction in power of the old social order. He may well direct more of the Government's attention on northern communities than Cameron or May ever did, because he is also concerned with the politics of retaining power and retaining all those seats the Tories have gained.

But also, he makes a lot of enemies and it's hard to imagine him seeing through a full 5 year term in No.10 without being sacked/forced out somewhere along the line, and he will go back to his blog and tell everyone in great detail exactly how he was shafted and the gory details of Boris and his colleagues' failings as a government.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:55 pm  
I am no lover off politics either way, they are all disingenuine with an odd sprinkle of saying a little item we may feel is right. If you are genuine on " for the good & right " of any issues, you would get on with it - & deliver, which we would see & receive !!
However, I have noticed, which is sad, that in general, labour mp's cannot be honest to them selves that they worked against the will of people & democracy per say, in our area, we have other issues with the council & their bad behaviour so Mary suffered a double whammy & she still doesn't get it, the issues, she is blaming others & not looking at they did not want what she offered, believed, & finally she operated against the 60% that did not want her opinions, they wanted her to deliver & do her job.
Sad but she did not & still does not get that you carry out what the majority want irrespective of your own opinions ! So sad but she still cannot see this !
You have to be honest with & unto your self !
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:09 am  
Am I the only one who is glad the Conervatives got back into government. It seems that the left always think they have the moral superiority. It is just their opinion. Nothing more.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:28 am  
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Am I the only one who is glad the Conervatives got back into government. It seems that the left always think they have the moral superiority. It is just their opinion. Nothing more.

No mate, you are certainly not on your own.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:50 am  
No you're definitely not on your own.

Although having said that, I was not 100%
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