Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:12 pm  

chissitt wrote:

It's difficult to argue with your logic here, massive problems with the fans split on whom to blame wish I had the answers like you appear to have, what I can't get my head round is your sudden concern for the plight of our club when for years you've shown nothing but open contempt for our club not forgetting the ridicule shown by you when Mr Davey not for the first time reached for the cheque book to take advantage of our financial plight by offering our players the moon on a stick, anyway enough said go get the kids off to school and get the housework done, and thank you for the input btw

Took advantage? Or helped you out?
Did you need the money or not? Were the players up for sale or not- because as I understand it a club that holds a players registration doesn’t have to give it up…… if Davy hadn’t opened his cheque book someone else may have- or perhaps no one would have- which would have been the better option?
Ken Davy has said he has a particularly good relationship with Wakefield and hull KR, (he has never got on with FC due to personal differences with Pearson over the football shares).

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:15 pm  

Whatever they are 'earning,' I reckon Lineham & Gaskell will be on far more than say Hall & Whitbread who have been the best 2 signings we have made. Will Gaskell now be brought back in at full-back for the easy beats that are St Helens?!!!

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:40 pm  

jools wrote:

Took advantage? Or helped you out?
Did you need the money or not? Were the players up for sale or not- because as I understand it a club that holds a players registration doesn’t have to give it up…… if Davy hadn’t opened his cheque book someone else may have- or perhaps no one would have- which would have been the better option?
Ken Davy has said he has a particularly good relationship with Wakefield and hull KR, (he has never got on with FC due to personal differences with Pearson over the football shares).

I'm told that everything and everyone has it's price, and I'm sure Mr Davey is the essence of a perfect gentleman, my post was not about the individual himself or his ability to buy players on the advice of the coaching staff even you have to admit they've had their fair share, but just simply in the context of my post regarding your sudden urge to highlight our apparent failings and I'm just questioning your reasons for the personal concern from somebody like yourself who has been as brutal as you have in being critical of our club.

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:36 pm  

Wildcatnomore wrote:

Whatever they are 'earning,' I reckon Lineham & Gaskell will be on far more than say Hall & Whitbread who have been the best 2 signings we have made. Will Gaskell now be brought back in at full-back for the easy beats that are St Helens?!!!

I'm afraid Gaskell was a huge mistake for you as i commented when he signed from us, totally rinsed us for 2 years, then played well in last year or so for a final contract, real mercenary and a sign that your management hadn't done their homework, we had been trying to offland gaskell for a long time before you finally came in for him

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:18 pm  

chissitt wrote:

I'm told that everything and everyone has it's price, and I'm sure Mr Davey is the essence of a perfect gentleman, my post was not about the individual himself or his ability to buy players on the advice of the coaching staff even you have to admit they've had their fair share, but just simply in the context of my post regarding your sudden urge to highlight our apparent failings and I'm just questioning your reasons for the personal concern from somebody like yourself who has been as brutal as you have in being critical of our club.

I don’t like the club no, and I’m afraid it’s either you or salford I would prefer to see going down and I just can’t see it being salford. I do however have a fascination for how the fans on here have behaved over the last few months it’s been particularly interesting watching the ups and downs on this forum and how things have changed since the start of the season- apart from Pop tart with the eternal optimism and reluctance to admit when things were going wrong, and downright refusal to admit mistakes that have been made by those in charge.
Vastmans hypocrisy of the highest order, telling people off for giving the criticisms he himself later gives and the meltdowns have been particularly funny.
But there are some genuine fans who support Wakefield who I feel sorry for because we have been where you are now and it’s not pleasant. For many years there was a couple who had ST in front of us who would bring their adult lad who would wear his Wakefield shirt to the giants games every week. I also have a friend who’s son is in the academy at Wakefield (he grits his teeth to put on the shirt- and it rankles he can’t wear his giants colours anymore) and that’s obviously a worry for him- but he’s a very bright lad - A* student - and will have other options.
The genuine fans will continue for the most part. The hurt wears off, you enjoy the rugby again and the championship is not a horrible place-apart from Fev the fans are decent, the food tends to be better and the beers cheaper!

[PopTart]

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:54 pm  

jools wrote:

I don’t like the club no, and I’m afraid it’s either you or salford I would prefer to see going down and I just can’t see it being salford. I do however have a fascination for how the fans on here have behaved over the last few months it’s been particularly interesting watching the ups and downs on this forum and how things have changed since the start of the season- apart from Pop tart with the eternal optimism and reluctance to admit when things were going wrong, and downright refusal to admit mistakes that have been made by those in charge.
Vastmans hypocrisy of the highest order, telling people off for giving the criticisms he himself later gives and the meltdowns have been particularly funny.
But there are some genuine fans who support Wakefield who I feel sorry for because we have been where you are now and it’s not pleasant. For many years there was a couple who had ST in front of us who would bring their adult lad who would wear his Wakefield shirt to the giants games every week. I also have a friend who’s son is in the academy at Wakefield (he grits his teeth to put on the shirt- and it rankles he can’t wear his giants colours anymore) and that’s obviously a worry for him- but he’s a very bright lad - A* student - and will have other options.
The genuine fans will continue for the most part. The hurt wears off, you enjoy the rugby again and the championship is not a horrible place-apart from Fev the fans are decent, the food tends to be better and the beers cheaper!

Ahh there we see it.
Must be a sad life when you get your kicks coming on a forum you care nothing about, just to tell people you don't like their club.

Support your own team if you can. Leave us to support ours however we see fit.

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Ahh there we see it.
Must be a sad life when you get your kicks coming on a forum you care nothing about, just to tell people you don't like their club.

Support your own team if you can. Leave us to support ours however we see fit.

I think there is more to her post than that tbh

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:21 pm  

We'll the feelings are mutual jools I dislike the Huddersfield club.

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:32 pm  

Jools Ha! Ha! What an effing saddo!

Re: The **** has hit the fan : Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:18 pm  

Trinhomeandaway wrote:

But this is his job to do and get what is needed
This is a business like any other buisness,can you imagine any other business that needs some investment to remain at the top table in its field just turning round and saying "unfortunately nobody will put any money in so we will just drift into oblivion ".
If this was a supermarket,chainstore or in fact any other type of buisness the CEO must get the investment or get people in who can get the investment,it really is as simple as that
It's the CEO's job to do this and if they can't we all know what would happen anywhere else

Isn't he doing his job then? are the bills not getting paid? where's the money come from for this last batch of players?
Please point out where he has said unfortunately nobody will put any money in so we'll just drift into oblivion.
If you can actually point out with some hard facts where he's not doing his job, please enlighten those who think that under the present circumstances he is actually doing okay.