Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:32 pm  

I appreciate that money is tight for Councils and they are under tremendous pressure but its Revenue that is the problem for social services, bin collections etc. etc. Capital is not a problem and the Council can borrow at very low rates as they dis for the Eastern Relief Road. They will get their money back as land is sold and occupiers/house holders start paying Council Tax and business rates.

The Trust & Club has suggested that the Council borrows the money and builds the Stadium. Michael Carter has offered to fund the interest on the loan until its repaid so it will not cost the Council a penny. The Council can recover the money to repay the loan from Section 106 Agreements and Community Infrastructure Levies imposed on Yorkcourt and the owners of Belle Vue as that is developed so as I say it will not cost them a penny.

In order to see this Stadium built there has to be a political will and drive from the Council, something that seems to be very much lacking at the moment.

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:47 pm  

Sandal Cat wrote:

I appreciate that money is tight for Councils and they are under tremendous pressure but its Revenue that is the problem for social services, bin collections etc. etc. Capital is not a problem and the Council can borrow at very low rates as they dis for the Eastern Relief Road. They will get their money back as land is sold and occupiers/house holders start paying Council Tax and business rates.

The Trust & Club has suggested that the Council borrows the money and builds the Stadium. Michael Carter has offered to fund the interest on the loan until its repaid so it will not cost the Council a penny. The Council can recover the money to repay the loan from Section 106 Agreements and Community Infrastructure Levies imposed on Yorkcourt and the owners of Belle Vue as that is developed so as I say it will not cost them a penny.

In order to see this Stadium built there has to be a political will and drive from the Council, something that seems to be very much lacking at the moment.

Given what you say above Sandal, surely the question of why the Council won't go for it needs to be asked in the Public domain. I am sure Jeremy Cross asking the question might prompt a response

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:48 pm  

bren2k wrote:

I don't know anything about how those developments were funded; wouldn't it be ironic if some European money was involved...? But I doubt the LA paid for it?

I'm in no way making excuses for WMDC - I agree that we are in a shameful position in the City in terms of sports and leisure facilities and are badly served by a leader who appears to direct his efforts based on self-interest and positive PR; but the comment I was replying to was about the wider picture in terms of LA budget cuts - which are just a reality - the settlement for LA's from central government has gone down year on year, hence the disappearance of many services and facilities.

On the point of political will - I tend to agree that there are plenty of things WMDC could do, short of paying for the thing, to get it moving; but they seem unwilling. Mr Box spent 2 years simply saying that it was nothing to do with the Council, only to change his tune when the national media got hold of it - once that died down, so did his commitment to getting a stadium built.

No such thing as European money, it's just a slice of UK tax payers money returning.

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:51 pm  

Sandal Cat wrote:

I appreciate that money is tight for Councils and they are under tremendous pressure but its Revenue that is the problem for social services, bin collections etc. etc. Capital is not a problem and the Council can borrow at very low rates as they dis for the Eastern Relief Road. They will get their money back as land is sold and occupiers/house holders start paying Council Tax and business rates.

The Trust & Club has suggested that the Council borrows the money and builds the Stadium. Michael Carter has offered to fund the interest on the loan until its repaid so it will not cost the Council a penny. The Council can recover the money to repay the loan from Section 106 Agreements and Community Infrastructure Levies imposed on Yorkcourt and the owners of Belle Vue as that is developed so as I say it will not cost them a penny.

In order to see this Stadium built there has to be a political will and drive from the Council, something that seems to be very much lacking at the moment.

When you explain things in this way, why the hell aren't WMDC agreeing to the deal ?
It really does make you think that they dont give a toss about the districts oldest professional club.

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:07 pm  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

Scarborough funded largely by Scarborough Council and also from Funding from the FA Football Foundation grants system. But mainly the Council. An 18 million project

Also there is a next phase coming for an additional stand that Flamingoland are funding

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:17 pm  

Driving down the M62 earlier today, you cant help but notice just how much bigger "the big white box" is getting.
It looks like it will be double its previous size

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:35 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Driving down the M62 earlier today, you cant help but notice just how much bigger "the big white box" is getting.
It looks like it will be double its previous size

It is infuriating. There cannot be many sporting clubs that meet such ill fortune. One day......will something go our way?!!!!

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:39 pm  

I would be showing Box this article and then asking how the hell they can justify 790m (30m per annum over 26 years) on one waste treatment facility yet not provide decent sports and leisure facilities including borrowing the money to build the community stadium http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8682730

I would be showing Box this article and then asking how the hell they can justify 790m (30m per annum over 26 years) on one waste treatment facility yet not provide decent sports and leisure facilities including borrowing the money to build the community stadium http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8682730

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:45 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote: I would be showing Box this article and then asking how the hell they can justify 790m (30m per annum over 26 years) on one waste treatment facility yet not provide decent sports and leisure facilities including borrowing the money to build the community stadium http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8682730 Thought exactly the same thing when I read this. Funding a community stadium is small change compared and what a fantastic asset it would be for the city. As posted many times before rugby, football, music concerts, school events etc etc

Tricky2309 wrote: I would be showing Box this article and then asking how the hell they can justify 790m (30m per annum over 26 years) on one waste treatment facility yet not provide decent sports and leisure facilities including borrowing the money to build the community stadium http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8682730 Thought exactly the same thing when I read this. Funding a community stadium is small change compared and what a fantastic asset it would be for the city. As posted many times before rugby, football, music concerts, school events etc etc

Re: D-DAY Monday! : Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:12 pm  

NEwildcat wrote:

I wonder why that is

Probably something to do with a water tight contract?