Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:11 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

You ask whether he was all that then go on to say we have improved, he has attracted a higher calibre of player and results have improved. So you've answered your own question, yes he was. And he is a damn sight better than the guy that is getting the job.

We have improved because we have better players. Whether or not those players would have come without Brian Smith is a matter of debate. The fact is James Webster won more super league games last season than Brian Smith with 'worse' players. So, I'll ask again, why is it that there is such a reaction he has left when he has won 2 games against super league teams?

For me, a lot has to rest on the players' shoulders. Some of these players have turned from solid super league players to donkeys seemingly overnight last season. If they don't want to be at the club they should have had the stomach to leave in the summer. Naming no names.

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:14 pm  

Trinity1315 wrote:

Just supposing he was promised money for players but it didn't materialise - any different now?

He received money for players!
He recruited, He retained and He resigned the players he wanted!
He had a bigger player budget than either Agar or Webster and he had the opportunity to move players on at the end of last year to create even more wriggle room.

If he got his squad decisions wrong and then asked for more, who's fault is that?

If he did ask for more money to spend then I'm 100% sure that Carter would have done all he could to shuffle the furniture and find some money. However, if it wasn't enough and Smiths taken the hump, ultimately taking his bat n ball home then how can Carter be blamed?

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:15 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

He received money for players!
He recruited, He retained and He resigned the players he wanted!
He had a bigger player budget than either Agar or Webster and he had the opportunity to move players on at the end of last year to create even more wriggle room.

If he got his squad decisions wrong and then asked for more, who's fault is that?

If he did ask for more money to spend then I'm 100% sure that Carter would have done all he could to shuffle the furniture and find some money. However, if it wasn't enough and Smiths taken the hump, ultimately taking his bat n ball home then how can Carter be blamed?

Also, agree.

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:20 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

He received money for players!
He recruited, He retained and He resigned the players he wanted!
He had a bigger player budget than either Agar or Webster and he had the opportunity to move players on at the end of last year to create even more wriggle room.

If he got his squad decisions wrong and then asked for more, who's fault is that?

If he did ask for more money to spend then I'm 100% sure that Carter would have done all he could to shuffle the furniture and find some money. However, if it wasn't enough and Smiths taken the hump, ultimately taking his bat n ball home then how can Carter be blamed?

Totally agree with this post.
It's as if he has looked at what's happened and thought... Not panned out as I thought..ADIOS!!

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:30 pm  

Jackie brown wrote:

Totally agree with this post.
It's as if he has looked at what's happened and thought... Not panned out as I thought..ADIOS!!

How do you know that the reason for the decision of BS was rugby related?
Could there not have been other reasons for him leaving?
Perhaps we will know a little more after the 'press conference'

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:35 pm  

PHe wrote:

How do you know that the decision of BS was rugby related?

I don't. We all seem to be in the dark ..but if it was something else then I think we would be having a joint press conference tomorrow!

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:05 pm  

I have read all the pages on this thread and other related threads and quite frankly I have no idea who is right or wrong or what to believe but to me its become irrelevant.

Brian Smith has gone. I loved listening to him speak and thought when he was appointed for this season it was the Clubs best appointment of the close season and that under Brian we would kick on. Unfortunately that will not be the case.

I do believe that if Michael Carter had not made the insipred decision to appoint him we would have been relegated and would not be having this debate. For keeping us in Super League Brian Smith will forever have my thanks and gratitude as does John Kear.

But similarly when Andrew Glover left the Club on the verge of administration I sat down with Michael and Chris Brereton and was shown the books, if you could call them that, and saw the extent of the debt we were facing. It would have been easy to just let the Club go into Administration again but the RFL had made that clear that we would be relagated to the Championship - I even wrote to the RFL about it and how they had assisted Bradford and was ridiculed on the Bradford Board and even had my address mentioned.

They were not prepared to accept relegation and Michael and Chris fought to pay all creditors, even putting their houses on the line to ensure that we retain our Super League status and for that they also will forever have my thanks and gratitude.

As I say, I don't know who to believe any more but don't care. All I know that is that Brian Smith has gone and all the best to him, Michael and Chris remain and we need to get behind them and whoever the new Head Coach is and keep on supporting this Club, which, whatever people are saying on here, we all love.

It's not easy being a Wakefield fan, but it never has been in all the 50+ years I have been assocaited with it.

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:06 pm  

cheshirecat57 wrote:

Rowley☺

Not a cat in Hell's chance .....

he is rumoured to be commited to the new Canadian job *if reports of his advances on our players & coaching staff (to go to Canada) are to be believed*.

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:18 pm  

We will never know the real reason but why do we have to fill the void with unsubstantiated theories based on the imagination of some forum members. To type it does not mean it is the truth, if it was I will win the lottery tomorrow.
I am not so supportive of those in charge because they must hold some responsibility for the mess we appear to be in again. I will take great interest in who gets the job permanently because we can then have a better idea if it was to save money by who they appoint. I doubt we will be looking to bring in any further players so we will have to see what impact this will have on the team's performance. To have one coach resign is unusual but now we have three.

Re: Brian smith quits!! : Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:24 pm  

Adam_Harrison9 wrote:

I wouldn't want Chester.........

Better get used to the idea by the sounds of it.