Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:53 pm  

Redscat wrote:

Not many resort to hiding in fridges and nicking peoples cameras to avoid answering genuine questions though. Snowie.

Even when the phone photo was staged as well

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:53 pm  

madkeentrin wrote:

I have voted Labour all my life and then voted Brexit.(never regretted it for a second).Consequently I have voted Tory in last 2 elections to get it implemented, as, i suspect, have a lot of people.Having said that there is zero chance that I would have voted for Corbyn this time.Had to laugh at Creagh on main news last night having a right go at Corbyn for the loss of her seat; no Mary,your failure to back Brexit cost you that,unless,of course, you forgot the 66% out vote.
Who knows if Brexit will be a success or if the Tories will continue to neglect us up here, only time will tell.

Sorry been out of the country since last Tuesday so only just looked at the forums tonight after getting over jet lag.
But Mary Creagh has continuously come under some pretty unfair criticism and disgusting comments made towards her over her Brexit stance, but ever since the day she was first elected, she has made it absolutely clear she was against Brexit, she has stood her ground and not wavered from her position despite all the flack. This is a very rare occurance in a politician to actually tell the truth and stick to your guns, she has been re-elected twice based on this stance (once since the referendum). Having met her a number of times on the many various projects she has supported and helped out in the districts in the last 10 years, I can honestly say she regularly and consistently has done the best for the people of wakefield and the only thing she appears to have done wrong is not support Brexit, I didn't vote this time but that's my fault, but I have always voted for the person I felt best represented what was needed in our fair city and I would have voted for her again, not because she's labour or that's I love corbyn (couldn't be further from the truth) but people mistakenly think our voting system is presidential and we're voting for our favourite leader not the person who best represents us. I doubt our Tory MP will get another term, this was clearly a protest vote, Andrew we'll have another one in 5 years.
Personally I think there should be better rules on when you have an election, this one has been ridiculous with its timing, a strangle hold over one policy Brexit, getting completed by January. But we won't get the Brexit that was blasted on the side of the big red bus, it'll look nothing like that

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:55 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

Even when the phone photo was staged as well

It wasn't though, more fake news by the tories, the hospital have acknowledge that it happened and apologised to the family, the letter doing the rounds on social media proporting to be from a disgruntled nurse was outed as fake

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:56 pm  

financialtimes wrote:

It wasn't though, more fake news by the tories, the hospital have acknowledge that it happened and apologised to the family, the letter doing the rounds on social media proporting to be from a disgruntled nurse was outed as fake

You’ve always got to let facts get in the way

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:57 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

You’ve always got to let facts get in the way

Yeah, I love peeing on the bonfire

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:07 pm  

financialtimes wrote:

It wasn't though, more fake news by the tories, the hospital have acknowledge that it happened and apologised to the family, the letter doing the rounds on social media proporting to be from a disgruntled nurse was outed as fake

He's got you there BT!!! You must read the wrong papers

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:23 am  

financialtimes wrote:

Sorry been out of the country since last Tuesday so only just looked at the forums tonight after getting over jet lag.
But Mary Creagh has continuously come under some pretty unfair criticism and disgusting comments made towards her over her Brexit stance, but ever since the day she was first elected, she has made it absolutely clear she was against Brexit, she has stood her ground and not wavered from her position despite all the flack. This is a very rare occurance in a politician to actually tell the truth and stick to your guns, she has been re-elected twice based on this stance (once since the referendum). Having met her a number of times on the many various projects she has supported and helped out in the districts in the last 10 years, I can honestly say she regularly and consistently has done the best for the people of wakefield and the only thing she appears to have done wrong is not support Brexit, I didn't vote this time but that's my fault, but I have always voted for the person I felt best represented what was needed in our fair city and I would have voted for her again, not because she's labour or that's I love corbyn (couldn't be further from the truth) but people mistakenly think our voting system is presidential and we're voting for our favourite leader not the person who best represents us. I doubt our Tory MP will get another term, this was clearly a protest vote, Andrew we'll have another one in 5 years.
Personally I think there should be better rules on when you have an election, this one has been ridiculous with its timing, a strangle hold over one policy Brexit, getting completed by January. But we won't get the Brexit that was blasted on the side of the big red bus, it'll look nothing like that

Ms Creagh was elected as Wakefield MP in 2005! Was Brexit on the table then? As regards Brexit the referendum was a straight choice leave or stay it was the duty of all MP's to stand by the result not go against democracy and decide that they know best, almost two thirds of the Wakefield electorate voted to leave the EU Ms Creagh's duty was to represent her constituents not her own views as she has now found out the electorate vote you in and also out.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:57 am  

RickK wrote:

Ms Creagh was elected as Wakefield MP in 2005! Was Brexit on the table then? As regards Brexit the referendum was a straight choice leave or stay it was the duty of all MP's to stand by the result not go against democracy and decide that they know best, almost two thirds of the Wakefield electorate voted to leave the EU Ms Creagh's duty was to represent her constituents not her own views as she has now found out the electorate vote you in and also out.

Yes a referendum to leave the EU was being discussed in parliament In 2005, labour dismissed this whilst still in government
Secondly, no she doesn't have to represent her constituency, her first and foremost duty is to act in the best interest of her constituency and in her opinion (and the majority of MP's across all parties) staying in the EU was in the best interest of her constituents. She wasn't "found out" she was voted out on one policy, a policy she really had no control over, if people had took the time to look at the actions of our MP other than Brexit they would have seen a very hard working MP who was extremely active in the district who backed a number of local initiatives along with some very high profile national (and global) initiatives. Just a shame that the people of wakefield have such a small minded view of her and decided to teach her a lesson over one issue.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:42 am  

The options were in or out no in betweens, the Scots had a Referendum about leaving the Union, they managed to understand how democracy works.

Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:14 am  

RickK wrote:

The options were in or out no in betweens, the Scots had a Referendum about leaving the Union, they managed to understand how democracy works.

Couple of things' Scotland haven't accepted the result of their independence referendum, do you watch the news, the SNP leader has been demanding another referendum ever since the last one failed to give the result they wanted (sound familiar at all?)
Also if you have any understanding of the parliamentary process, you would know that the referendum was an "advisory" referendum, which means no party has to take it as an action to process. All that said it's a million miles away from what I was trying to discuss. But seems I was right about the "single policy" voting