Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:16 pm  

RealSteel89 wrote:

Think Croft is worth a mention from last night. He does the tough stuff well, makes plenty of metres after contact with good leg drive. He handled Cudjoe well enough in defence aswell. For me he plays for the rest of the year and develops a decent relationship with TJ

Cudjoe was so intent on moving out to obstruct Croft that he left a lovely channel for Ashurst to coast through onto Millers deft kick.

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Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:35 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Yes Johnstone was out of position, but again he was faced with a two on one situation so he was stood in the middle of the two attacking players. The young lad who swatted him off is a bit of a unit too.

That's unfortunately the point. Standing in the middle gets no one. Needs to just be more decisive in defense.
He's clearly above most on the league in most areas for a winger but that miss will cost him when England are looking.

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:27 pm  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Battye

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Battye

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:33 pm  

Dannyboywt wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Battye

I struggle to see your point, not too sure why it matters where a player is from or what kind of background they have come from?

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:58 pm  

PopTart wrote:

That's unfortunately the point. Standing in the middle gets no one. Needs to just be more decisive in defense.
He's clearly above most on the league in most areas for a winger but that miss will cost him when England are looking.

Standing on his wing the centre has a walk in, stand in the centre the wing has a walk in, stand where he did he has an opportunity to at least get to the attacking player. I suppose in an impossible situation he forced the wing to score out wide resulting in a difficult conversion, subsequently missed, which placed less pressure on Hampshire for his last conversion.

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:07 pm  

STB wrote:

Who mentioned Max Jowitt? Given a straight choice between Jowitt and Hampshire for full back I would pick Max everytime. My point was that this is the only position that Hampshire can play effectively but if Max is playing there isnt a place for Ryan. He offers little or no threat at half back, his kicking game is weak. He works best finishing chances that others have created. Jacob Miller needs an effective partner but with the players available that is also probably Max Jowitt unless someone like Brad Walker can come to the fore?

Point taken!

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:13 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Standing on his wing the centre has a walk in, stand in the centre the wing has a walk in, stand where he did he has an opportunity to at least get to the attacking player. I suppose in an impossible situation he forced the wing to score out wide resulting in a difficult conversion, subsequently missed, which placed less pressure on Hampshire for his last conversion.

Agreed.

I played FB most of my RL career, all under 18. However occasionally I played on the wing and I hated it. You were always on a hiding to nothing in defence. You were so dependant on other players who often made you look a fool. That doesn’t change even at the top level, especially in a team playing as poorly as we’ve been.

TJ made one mistake, perhaps, probably the same number as most and less than some. However his overall contribution is class and if he played for Saints nobody would ever question TJ’s defence because he’d rarely be in that position whilst at Wakefield it’s a given I’m afraid.

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:18 pm  

RealSteel89 wrote:

Think Croft is worth a mention from last night. He does the tough stuff well, makes plenty of metres after contact with good leg drive. He handled Cudjoe well enough in defence aswell. For me he plays for the rest of the year and develops a decent relationship with TJ

I agree - Croft is progressing well. He didn't look out of place . The Sky pundits were too concerned with how much of a future star Wardle is to notice Croft.

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:31 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

I agree - Croft is progressing well. He didn't look out of place . The Sky pundits were too concerned with how much of a future star Wardle is to notice Croft.

Croft is doing well, he’s exactly where I’d expect him to be for a player who always had promise.

He needs to improve almost every part of his game and I see no reason why he won’t.

He’s a bit small but I’m not convinced that is the be all if you know how to play.

I’m glad for him after a shaky start to the season (the Leeds friendly) but he was out of position on the wing but a confidence dapper all the same.

Re: Hubb v trinity ko 8.45t : Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:31 am  

vastman wrote:

Agreed.

I played FB most of my RL career, all under 18. However occasionally I played on the wing and I hated it. You were always on a hiding to nothing in defence. You were so dependant on other players who often made you look a fool. That doesn’t change even at the top level, especially in a team playing as poorly as we’ve been.

TJ made one mistake, perhaps, probably the same number as most and less than some. However his overall contribution is class and if he played for Saints nobody would ever question TJ’s defence because he’d rarely be in that position whilst at Wakefield it’s a given I’m afraid.

I don’t get what the constant bagging of TJ when he doesn’t make 1 tackle. It’s not like every other player gets the stick for missing a tackle so I can’t fathom it.

Fact is vs Hudds

Tom - most carries in the Wakefield team.
Tom - most metres by a wakefield player.
Tom - Two trys scored.
Tom - awesome pass to send Jowitt through a gap and followed up almost resulting in a try.

The metres Tom we’re making to get us out of our 20 was valuable and he even took carries on the opposite side of the field then run back to his wing.

It completely beggars belief how one mistake In a difficult position from him and it’s all people want to mention. I’ve not a clue what people watch sometimes.

And I completely agree. The fact is Croft (Who I rate btw) ended up tackling Sezer leaving Tom a choice of the centre and wing and again 2 on 1. Tom was going for the centre but left just enough time to be able to cover Wood. Unfortunately Wood got a decent fend on him.

You just can’t please some people.