Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:02 pm  

FIL wrote:

Can't find the actual incident on the replay, but I think you'll find the penalty was against Pitts for being off-side and picking the ball up rather than Ashurst hitting the player's arm, as the penalty is given 5 metres to the left of the sticks rather than directly in front, where Ashurst was ??

Just found it now at 59:00...it's definitely Pitts that gets penalised for being off-side (even though he wasn't !!!), rather than Ashurst hitting the arm, as the ref walks over to Pitts and says "you're off" and awards the penalty there.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:38 pm  

I suppose we brought Catalan down to our level right mr wilkin.

Great performance from the lads especially Max and Brad and there's nothing else really what hasn't already been said regarding the Ref, think Specsavers come to mind.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:47 pm  

Just shows how a partisan crowd can influence officials. Every time the crowd didnt like something they jeered and sure enough got the majority of the decisions.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 5:12 pm  

Just want to add a few things.

I thought all our forwards put a real shift in yesterday. Was very pleased to see Aydin mixing it up in the middle. The lad doesn’t take a backwards step and looks like he’s ready to stake a claim for a bench spot this season.

I thought Bowes was impressive too. When I saw him end of 2020 I think he was getting pushed around like a pinball but against Catalans he tackled well and offered some options. Massively positive and he looks like he could be a decent 9 option should he be needed this year.

Special mention to Batchelor who again filled in at right centre and did a great job. I really like the look of Batch and it’s hard to forget he’s only 23! If there’s the option I would be tying him up long term as our permanent right SR for the future.

The whole team never threw the towel in and soon these tight losses will turn into wins! Keep it up.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:12 pm  

Kettykat wrote:

So you don’t think battye not playing the ball correctly isn’t a school boy error which led directly to a try , well it is in my book

Don’t think you could have picked a worse example to make your point and I rate you as a poster.

That wasn’t a schoolboy error, it was just an error that every player in every team makes on a regular basis. Sometimes you get away with them other times you don’t,

If there is such a thing as a schoolboy error Drinkwaters?? pass in in the last minute was it. True it wasn’t going to cost them the game but it was utterly pointless. Grix a few years ago, that was bad because getting it wrong actually took more effort than getting it right.

Battye for me made an unforced error, a momentary lack of concentration. All people in all professions make them all the time, it’s how we/they react and the damage limitation that matters. Although we couldn’t hold the line on this occasion overall we did well on that regard but you just can’t win them all. Isolating one player doesn’t help.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:12 pm  

vastman wrote:

But there not silly things are they, they are exactly the things you’d expect from an as hoc team. Let’s have some realism here, players in all teams make errors and in teams lacking experience they tend to make more.

Why not just concentrate on the positives. I don’t get this idea that you can’t just say well done without some side to the odd negative. Sometimes it’s needed but IMO this is not one, what exactly do you think it achieves assuming you think WP should do the same?

As I said some of the schoolboy errors from yesterday were things that we were all taught as children to do. There are some things that absolutely need to be forgotten about, as it will come with time playing together but the basics are the same regardless of what team you’re in. You probably won’t understand if you didn’t play when you were a kid.

As to congratulating the side, read the thread back. I’m more than proud of the performance from yesterday. Just can’t turn a blind eye to some things…

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:22 pm  

vastman wrote:

Don’t think you could have picked a worse example to make your point and I rate you as a poster.

That wasn’t a schoolboy error, it was just an error that every player in every team makes on a regular basis. Sometimes you get away with them other times you don’t,

If there is such a thing as a schoolboy error Drinkwaters?? pass in in the last minute was it. True it wasn’t going to cost them the game but it was utterly pointless. Grix a few years ago, that was bad because getting it wrong actually took more effort than getting it right.

Battye for me made an unforced error, a momentary lack of concentration. All people in all professions make them all the time, it’s how we/they react and the damage limitation that matters. Although we couldn’t hold the line on this occasion overall we did well on that regard but you just can’t win them all. Isolating one player doesn’t help.

Can you explain to me (without digging a deeper hole) the exact reason Drinkwaters is a schoolboy error yet Battyes wasn’t?

Both errors leading to a try except again one you’re taught to do right from being 5 years old “thats it little lad, pop the ball on the floor and roll it backwards” and the other comes a little further down the line and requires a little more skill.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:29 pm  

TimmySmith wrote:

As I said some of the schoolboy errors from yesterday were things that we were all taught as children to do. There are some things that absolutely need to be forgotten about, as it will come with time playing together but the basics are the same regardless of what team you’re in. You probably won’t understand if you didn’t play when you were a kid.

As to congratulating the side, read the thread back. I’m more than proud of the performance from yesterday. Just can’t turn a blind eye to some things…

Life doesn’t work like that though, not just in RL but in anything.

Personal question and you’re not obliged to answer but is your own life not littered with errors? Mine is. We’re they not mostly errors you were warned about as a child? Mine were.

Who are these perfect people? Do you think RL players are above normal human behaviour? Because they are not.

Doctors train for years but they still make errors. If you didn’t have errors in sport you wouldn’t have a sport, especially team sports. You’d just be watching 13 robots playing 13 robots and every game being a 0 - 0 draw.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:31 pm  

FIL wrote:

Just found it now at 59:00...it's definitely Pitts that gets penalised for being off-side (even though he wasn't !!!), rather than Ashurst hitting the arm, as the ref walks over to Pitts and says "you're off" and awards the penalty there.

Fair enough mate, it was just from what Sky showed yesterday seemed to focus more on the hitting of the arm.

I guess the ref had already told Pitts and blew for offside, I’d imagine they’d still of called back should Pitts not have been off.

Re: Catalans Away - Match Thread : Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:32 pm  

vastman wrote:

Don’t think you could have picked a worse example to make your point and I rate you as a poster.

That wasn’t a schoolboy error, it was just an error that every player in every team makes on a regular basis. Sometimes you get away with them other times you don’t,

If there is such a thing as a schoolboy error Drinkwaters?? pass in in the last minute was it. True it wasn’t going to cost them the game but it was utterly pointless. Grix a few years ago, that was bad because getting it wrong actually took more effort than getting it right.

Battye for me made an unforced error, a momentary lack of concentration. All people in all professions make them all the time, it’s how we/they react and the damage limitation that matters. Although we couldn’t hold the line on this occasion overall we did well on that regard but you just can’t win them all. Isolating one player doesn’t help.

Listen it’s sunday night and I can’t be bothered carrying this petty argument on any longer , you have your view on the matter and I have mine ,whether it was a silly mistake or a schoolboy one it still had the same outcome … a try