Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:18 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Fifita - Off contract
Whitbread - signed for next season
Arona- off contract
Tanginoa (if needed)
Bowden - only on loan
Aydin - off contract
Battye - here another year but not the player he was
Butler - here next season but looks like one of our panic buy
Shaw- inexperienced unlikely to endure a full season at prop
Eseh- inexperienced unlikely to endure a full season at prop

All but two available, where is the crisis?

The crisis is that most teams go into each game with four props for rotation, therefore if we do not resign any out of contract players which is possible then we have:-

Whitbread
Battye
Butler
Shaw
Eseh

It’s now not looking quite so positive and definitely appears more of a crisis.

The trinity press release announced signing Bowden with immediate effect until the end of 2023…

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Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:18 am  

Spookisback wrote:

The trinity press release announced signing Bowden with immediate effect until the end of 2023…

Yes. Both Butler and Bowden were permanent deals, just short contracts until end 2023

Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:41 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Fifita - Off contract
Whitbread - signed for next season
Arona- off contract
Tanginoa (if needed)
Bowden - only on loan
Aydin - off contract
Battye - here another year but not the player he was
Butler - here next season but looks like one of our panic buy
Shaw- inexperienced unlikely to endure a full season at prop
Eseh- inexperienced unlikely to endure a full season at prop

All but two available, where is the crisis?

The crisis is that most teams go into each game with four props for rotation, therefore if we do not resign any out of contract players which is possible then we have:-

Whitbread
Battye
Butler
Shaw
Eseh

It’s now not looking quite so positive and definitely appears more of a crisis.

No it doesn't unless you're determined to view it that way.

So again, where is the crisis other than your imagined version?

Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:44 am  

PopTart wrote:

Yes. Both Butler and Bowden were permanent deals, just short contracts until end 2023

I did not realise he had signed until the end of next season, it will alleviate the problem slightly but based on known contracted players we are still short at prop and would still lack size but we shall see.

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Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:17 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I did not realise he had signed until the end of next season, it will alleviate the problem slightly but based on known contracted players we are still short at prop and would still lack size but we shall see.

Well I guess you can worry about it if you want to.
There are 3 games left of this season and 6 months before the start of next, so forgive me if I'm OK with it for now.
It's just how contracts work.

Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:28 am  

PopTart wrote:

Yes. Both Butler and Bowden were permanent deals, just short contracts until end 2023

Willie must have some faith in Butler

Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:34 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Willie must have some faith in Butler

Does he know him from his Warrington days?

He's a big strong lad, and he has one good season with London under his belt. There is definitely something there.

If Aydin is the top of the youngsters, above Shaw and Eseh. The Butler is on the bottom rung of the established players. He has experience and a bit of age in his side but is as yet to find any consistency n his game. Not unusual for a prop.

A good pre season and then I think we will get his true measure - let's be fair on the lad, he did not arrive at an ideal time.

Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:18 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Fifita - Off contract
Whitbread - signed for next season
Arona- off contract
Tanginoa (if needed)
Bowden - only on loan
Aydin - off contract
Battye - here another year but not the player he was
Butler - here next season but looks like one of our panic buy
Shaw- inexperienced unlikely to endure a full season at prop
Eseh- inexperienced unlikely to endure a full season at prop

All but two available, where is the crisis?

The crisis is that most teams go into each game with four props for rotation, therefore if we do not resign any out of contract players which is possible then we have:-

Whitbread
Battye
Butler
Shaw
Eseh

It’s now not looking quite so positive and definitely appears more of a crisis.

But thats not recently or now is it?
Seeing as the poster was talking about that and not next season.....
Your point fails I'm afraid.

Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:27 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Willie must have some faith in Butler

Rob Butler played for England Knights in 2019, so someone saw something in him.

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Re: Hull on Friday : Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:24 am  

phe13 wrote:

Rob Butler played for England Knights in 2019, so someone saw something in him.

He's been injured and come to a new club where it takes time to get up to speed for some.

As said above, let's see what he's like after an off season and time with Willie to set his individual objectives.