Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:51 am  

bren2k wrote:

I'm trying to find a way that this could be another gambit by MC - to force the hands of YC; but I can't see how that would work. Instead, it feels like capitulation and a clear indicator that if we move, the fight is over and we've accepted defeat.

I still can't see how WMDC are being allowed to get away with colluding with YCP to renege on the UU; has anyone actually written to the SoS to inform him that his Inspector has been hoodwinked by a tinpot Labour council leader and a small time property developer?!

I've given in, I'm a big fan of TRB and SWAG but I think they have been totally hoodwinked - I don't think anyone on here could have done better but they SWAG are just fans and decent people and as such we have been out of our depth for a while now IMHO - no point fighting now for anything from the NM debacle it's to late for that and I think MC to his credit has come to see things as they really are. We will have to go it alone and that will take all our efforts and I mean ALL of us.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:07 pm  

vastman wrote:

I've given in, I'm a big fan of TRB and SWAG but I think they have been totally hoodwinked

Sadly, I agree; and that's no criticism of the individuals involved - it's business as usual for a property developer to ride roughshod over the wants and expectations of a local community; they do it all the time. When a council leader is on their side, it's no kind of challenge at all.

They had a planning lawyer, planning experts, the planning committee and their own company solicitor at their disposal - together with years of experience of shafting people to get what they want. The ace up our sleeve was meant to be Rodney Walker, but he appears to have been as much use as a chocolate fireguard. We hold no cards, and seem to be paralysed by a total refusal to do or say anything controversial or difficult that could apply pressure to Box and/or Mackie.

It's now left to MC to salvage something from the ashes - and if that's a ground-share at Dewsbury, then so be it.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:27 pm  

Thanks for the support guys - appreciated! But when things get tough, we get stubborn!

This ain't going our way, but that doesn't mean we're stepping aside!

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:36 pm  

TRB has tried his best with all this and if you talk to him he still hasn't given up far from it. However he and the team have been up against individuals that even 'experts' would have difficulty in dealing with. Some people mention what has Sir Rodney Walker done, well from where I view things ,sweet FA, infact he has been more of an hindrance than an help as far I can see.The best thing we can all do is put BV out of our minds, its over, forget it ! If Dewsbury is the best option, at least give it a go and don't give in. If the team threw the towel in like some people we would all be up in arms.
Move to Dewsbury, back the club and keep on fighting.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:53 pm  

Anyone know who owns the stadium at Dewsbury?

[Wildthing]

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:31 pm  

vastman wrote:

FWIW this is my take on a ground move.

Dewsbury is by far and away the best option IMHO.

It's virtually the same distance from the town centre than NM.

It's actually nearer to our main supporter base.

It's already built and is modern compared to BV if a little basic.

Who gives a stuff if it's 500 meters away fro being in WMDC who don't deserve us anyway.

It requires very little spending on it in the short term, maybe a floodlight upgrade and some temp seating at the sides of the main stand. We could possibly move our Exec boxes to the ground to give us more hospitality and office space as one end is still free - not sure what state they are in or how easy this is but if Fev fans can rebuild a whole stand!

Long term plenty of room to upgrade to 10,000 plus.

The issue is not the ground the issue is what terms we go on.

If we go as tenants forget about it, as others say we will wither and die - these deals never work and we will eventually be shown the door. Also on one feels connected to the place. We will become nomads and end up a basket case like Oldham.

If however we go fully committed and buy a stake in the stadium then it becomes home and it is secure and we could thrive. I'd say 10% was the minimum but 30% would be better, discounted obviously because of why we will bring SL RL hopefully.

I'm all for it but it may require us all to dig deep into our pockets to achieve - not a Trinity fans strong point I'm afraid.

Makes a lot of sense to me, if it's Dewsbury - I'm in!

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:53 pm  

Dewsbury until the Wakefield Community Stadium @ thornes is built.
Up the Trin

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:20 pm  

So realistically Newmarket and Belle Vue dead and buried. Dewsbury our only hope - god help us!
All we need then is a sugar daddy to build us a new stadium. Not going to happen is it. Ah well Dewsbury Trinity has a ring to it!

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:51 pm  

Trinity1315 wrote:

So realistically Newmarket and Belle Vue dead and buried. Dewsbury our only hope - god help us!
All we need then is a sugar daddy to build us a new stadium. Not going to happen is it. Ah well Dewsbury Trinity has a ring to it!

Don't think that would help now tbh.

Re: Moving From Belle Vue.. : Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:53 pm  

I do wonder what Dewsbury will make of it. They might end up with a slightly improved ground, but the casual rugby fan might prefer to turn out for Super League than the Championship.