Re: first team players : Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:08 pm  

vastman wrote:

I'm gonna go slightly off piste with this one. I think some of you are underestimating Morris here and I'd be tempted if training and friendlies to start him. I know he's raw but so is Hall at centre, however he is very very enthusiastic and competitive and probably more athletic. If he is as potentially good as some suggest (bit of a hot property as a speculator) then as we all know backs can cement their place and reputation very quickly if they are as good as they appear.

Think we need to hit the ground running and although I except Halls mitigating injuries he will IMHO never be that kind of player. Also I feel he should have to wait his chance, he certainly shouldn't get any position by right especially one he was renowned at HKR for being not very good at.

BJB
Johnstone, Gibson, Morriss, Tupou or Owen
Miller, Finn
Scruton, Sio, Anderson or Walker (not convinced by Anderson)
Tupou, Kirmond
Arona

Moore, England, Simon, Ashurst or Anakin

I can't comment on Morris because I've never seen him play, but Hall appears to be the only centre we have capable of putting his winger away. It's not a problem for Tupou because he's strong enough to be used as a battering ram to help the forwards out where as Johnstone isn't. At least not yet. But he's got pace to burn and needs to be put in space, and Hall can do that for him. The only issue with playing them together would be the defence. Opponents would target them and I'm not sure Hall is someone you'd want protecting a young winger in those situations. Offensively though, no problems at all.

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:04 am  

I bet Brian Smiths really grateful for all the inside information he can access from the site. Maybe one of you could compile a run down of players ability, strength s and weaknesses along with collar, shoe waist sizes. If you could also supply a mental and physical health statement that would be great. Dietary and training plans would be much

appreciated for individual players. Old school reports can prove very handy.
Some of you should really read back the utter tosh you write .

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:14 am  

Luckily this is a fans forum and not a forum for professional coaches then isn't it. To be honest I'd not thought about Morris as he is one definitely under the radar. I'd absolutely love it if an unknown British prospect did a great job for us.

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:27 am  

lampyboy wrote:

I bet Brian Smiths really grateful for all the inside information he can access from the site. Maybe one of you could compile a run down of players ability, strength s and weaknesses along with collar, shoe waist sizes. If you could also supply a mental and physical health statement that would be great. Dietary and training plans would be much

appreciated for individual players. Old school reports can prove very handy.
Some of you should really read back the utter tosh you write .

Think you need to get over yourself lad! Bit grumpy from your early start?

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:08 am  

Fans forum you say , well I never. Better get the message out quickly and let the fans know

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:47 pm  

As a fan not one who thinks he is a coach...I'd like to see the following 17 out of the squad to start with (unless others play their way into the team through pre season)

1. Ben Jones-Bishop
2.Tom Johnstone
3. Joe Arundel (think BS will favour him ahead of Hall)
4. Ashley Gibson
5. Bill Tupou
6. Jacob Miller
7. Liam Finn
8. Nick Scruton
9. Michael Sio
10. Anthony England
11. Danny Kirmond
12. Anthony Tupou
13. Tninrau Arona
14. Scott Anderson
15. Mikael Simon
16. Jon Molloy (surely ahead of Ashurst after last season)
17. Scott Moore (assuming he's signed)

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:40 pm  

How does Kirmond get in everyone's team?
He wouldn't get in mine, with his recent performances. With the depth that we have in that position he shouldn't be a certainty.

Appreciate he's the captain but not been good enough for a while, in my opinion.

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:26 pm  

Agree we need a new captain and new attitude in the squad . Kirmond will have to earn his place . I can't believe that some on here don't have Anakin in their team yet soft lad Anderson gets in.

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:40 pm  

Kirmond for long enough was playing injured so do you make no wonder he could not put It together in the games against Sheffield and Bradford he looked a lot sharper and fitter than for some time.One things for sure BS has plenty of options on who he plays where so should keep all players giving it their all.

Re: first team players : Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:57 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

I bet Brian Smiths really grateful for all the inside information he can access from the site. Maybe one of you could compile a run down of players ability, strength s and weaknesses along with collar, shoe waist sizes. If you could also supply a mental and physical health statement that would be great. Dietary and training plans would be much

appreciated for individual players. Old school reports can prove very handy.
Some of you should really read back the utter tosh you write .

Fans can often see a lot of things coaches can't, be that due to being matey or blindness of the truth.

The Agar saga is a prime example; also the Kear fascination with Tommy Lee ?

These are only a couple of recent years examples of fans seeing things coaches don't. There are many but I can't be arsed to think back. The point being no matter how good the coach is, they do get it wrong a sometimes.