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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:22 pm  
No I was applying for a job at the Sun. I was being sarcastic based on the amount of vitriol Corbyn received.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:24 pm  
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Stopping the current decline in the area will be a start.
It's a low benchmark.


You do realise, the decline in the Wakefield area, has been down to the austerity measures of the conservative government? The cutbacks to our local council have been caused by the tories. Ironically, the only improvements to the north have been funded by the EU.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:42 pm  
The money received by the council in Wakefield from central government has reduced by 54% since 2010. I think this may limit what they can do and I doubt there will be little change even with the new MP who will not want to rock the boat with his party being such a new boy with little experience.
I wouldn’t bank on anything changing for the better over the next five years.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:09 pm  
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You do realise, the decline in the Wakefield area, has been down to the austerity measures of the conservative government? The cutbacks to our local council have been caused by the tories. Ironically, the only improvements to the north have been funded by the EU.


You do realise the decline in the Wakefield area began with the creation of the MDC back in the 70's and has been unrelenting regardless of who has been in charge at Westminster.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:21 pm  
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No I was applying for a job at the Sun. I was being sarcastic based on the amount of vitriol Corbyn received.

Well the sarcasm didn't land at all, probably because you were really reaching, usually an emoticon works wonders.

Not that I want to go over such boring old ground, but you have brought it up so all I'll say is - Ateotd Corbyn has been unbelievably wishy-washy about those years and it leads people to fill in the gaps, no matter what paper they read or any of that crap. When he won't even condemn the IRA on so many TV interviews etc and he stood for a minutes silence for eight IRA members killed by the SAS in Gibraltar and then when he unexpectedly rose to be leader of Labour, all he's said is a back tracking line of it was "for all who'd died" in Northern Ireland.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:17 pm  
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Well the sarcasm didn't land at all, probably because you were really reaching, usually an emoticon works wonders.

Not that I want to go over such boring old ground, but you have brought it up so all I'll say is - Ateotd Corbyn has been unbelievably wishy-washy about those years and it leads people to fill in the gaps, no matter what paper they read or any of that crap. When he won't even condemn the IRA on so many TV interviews etc and he stood for a minutes silence for eight IRA members killed by the SAS in Gibraltar and then when he unexpectedly rose to be leader of Labour, all he's said is a back tracking line of it was "for all who'd died" in Northern Ireland.


I don't think Jeremy Corbyn was showing sympathy for the terrorist actions of the IRA, no leader would empathise with that. It's more the sympathising with, and supporting, the CAUSE that they were fighting for, ie a United Ireland, and what is wrong with that? It's a legitimate cause. The United Kingdom isn't exactly snow-white when it comes to questionable military action is it?
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:41 pm  
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You mean to say he is a terrorist sympathiser.


I worked with the UN partly on Terrorism but more on Community Policing does that imply I am a terrorist sympathiser then?
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:23 am  
I was being ironic because if he had been a Labour MP how do you think the right wing press would deal with it. I note that the same papers make no reference to the influx of Britain first members joining the Conservative party because they like the way Johnson had spoken about minorities in the past.
So no I don’t think our current MP or you are terrorist sympathisers I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the press. To be able to end the troubles in Northern Ireland required the UK government to negotiate with terrorist organisations on both sides but produce peace. The problem with Corbyn is that he is actually a man of principal who abhors violence.
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:26 am  
Corbyn has done quite a bit to support the IRA, have a read up on George McLaughlin, supplier of radio controls to remotely detonate bombs and his partner and how they jumped to the top of Islington's housing list despite living in Wales, no dependent kids but they did have neighbours who had found out their 'background' so along comes Jezza
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Re: OT wakefield to go blue : Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:06 am  
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Corbyn has done quite a bit to support the IRA, have a read up on George McLaughlin, supplier of radio controls to remotely detonate bombs and his partner and how they jumped to the top of Islington's housing list despite living in Wales, no dependent kids but they did have neighbours who had found out their 'background' so along comes Jezza


From which source did you do this reading up?
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