Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:06 pm  

vastman wrote:

So squad so far

Backs:

Jowitt - FB
A. Walker - FB
Johnstone - Wing
Kaye - Wing
Kershaw - Wing
Senior - Wing
Tupou - Centre
Lyne - Centre
Arundel - Centre/SR

HB's

Lino - Scrum Half
Miller - Stand Off
Hampshire (SH/FB/Wing)
B. Walker (SO/LF)

Hookers

K. Wood - Hooker
J. Wood - Hooker

Back Row

Ashurst
Tanginoa (SR/PROP)
Westerman
Pitts
Crowther (SR/LF/Hooker)
Batchelor

Front Row

Fifita - Prop
Tangata - Prop
Green - Prop
Arona (Prop/LF)
?

Reserves (Based on them all having played at least one first-team game)

Aydin - Prop
Greensmith - (Centre/SR)
Bailey - (HB/LF)
Croft - (Centre/Wing)
Bowes - Hooker

Train on players (No first-team experience)

Windrow - S/R
Eseh - Forward
O’Donovan - Forward

That a squad of 33 (maybe 34 soon), all but 3 with some first team.

SORRY IF I'VE MISSED ANYONE.

Get the extra prop, I don't see a problem. Not get the extra prop, still don't see much of a problem.

We used to get through longer seasons with fewer numbers and less quality than that and often did OK. If we are poor this season it's either the fault of the players/coaches or we've had yet another spectacular injury crisis. Let's stop making excuses and win something.

Bailey is at Gateshead for the season

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:11 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

Bailey is at Gateshead for the season

I'd guess there is a recall if required, he's still a Trinity player. I assume it's the same with senior.

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:19 pm  

He's at Newcastle Thunder boys!

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:04 pm  

cheshirecat57 wrote:

He's at Newcastle Thunder boys!

Yes but he's still our player, he's only on loan. Wasn't Walker there last season but re-joined us at the end of the season.

I can't imagine we'd recall him as it kind of ruins the point of a season-long loan but I suppose we could. I also assume Walker re-joined because effectively Gateshead stopped playing.

Anyway, a handy player to have around, even at Newcastle.

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:15 pm  

vastman wrote:

I'd guess there is a recall if required, he's still a Trinity player. I assume it's the same with senior.

Stated it was season long but there could be a recall

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:14 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

Stated it was season long but there could be a recall

Definitely year long but you’d have to assume there is some flexibility.

I don’t want him recalled tbh, it should be the making of him.

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:30 pm  

REDWHITEANDBLUE wrote:

Stated it was season long but there could be a recall

There's definitely a recall option. I just hope he gets the same amount of game time now they're in the Championship as he would've in League 1. It's shaping up to be a competitive division, a year of playing at that level and he could really kick on.

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:48 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

There's definitely a recall option. I just hope he gets the same amount of game time now they're in the Championship as he would've in League 1. It's shaping up to be a competitive division, a year of playing at that level and he could really kick on.

It’s ideal for Bailey. He’s one of those odd players who’s position isn’t yet set. He could be a SO or a LF or even something else. He has the core skills and enough size and athleticism to be whatever he wants to be. He should find that at Newcastle.

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:55 pm  

vastman wrote:

It’s ideal for Bailey. He’s one of those odd players who’s position isn’t yet set. He could be a SO or a LF or even something else. He has the core skills and enough size and athleticism to be whatever he wants to be. He should find that at Newcastle.

Yeah I know what you mean, I think he'll start at 6 but can definitely see him as a ball playing 13. It'll do him more good than a year in the reserves would have.

Re: 2021 squad : Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:37 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

You can’t have it both ways. You say Lino cannot be strengthening as nobody has seen him play. Yet the signing KR have made have strengthened them ... despite nobody seeing them play either. The simple fact is nobody will know till seasons underway.

Let’s be honest here the players we have lost have not weakened us in anything but depth.

Atkins
Kirmond
Brough

We’re all over the hill and hadn’t produced a good game in a long time. Truth be told we have better alternatives. No loss at all.

Koppy was marginally better but he didn’t stand up for me when we had all the injuries in the front row. Wasn’t overly impressed by him.

Gwaze no loss as barely played.

The only one I will give you as a loss is BJB.

As per the above we have lost some depth but only BJB in terms of quality not replaced by better or equal.

You say KR have strengthened. On paper they seem to have a much improved front row and forwards. However have you seen their backs and halfs? I don’t see much threat in that department.

The club have also invested in not just small but significant ballroom strengthening with Poching, last and the new physio/nutritionist. That could make a huge difference.

Plus players like batch/crowther/Jowitt a year older and looking like breaking through to regular good standard SL players.

There’s a lot to be positive about imho.

We literally only need 1/2 props and recruitment isn’t over just yet.

Honestly I’m looking forward to the new season.

Good post pal

The coaching situation is massive for us
I can’t recall a time when we’ve had half as much coaching experience
Poaching and last with Chester should be excellent

I see it the same way (although on hull kr Simms is an excellent signing for them)

We have replaced brough, which is excellent, lino could be a real find in a key position

We’ve lost bjb which isn’t good, he’s being such a consistent player for us ever since he came, I think Kaye is adequate but he won’t positively replaced BJB

Atkins n kirmond were here to cover in there final years and were squad players

The only area for concern is prop
We’ve lost koppy and naverette and batty
I am sure some one will turn up, we will certainly need it as soon as either Dave or Green are injured, the club have said they are looking so I am sure that will put it’s self right

I have a really good feeling about Brad walker and that he’ll have a real impact this season for us

I’d say we are in a similar position in terms of first team players but hopefully our half back pairing is finally sorted all be it our prop situation has gone backwards