Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:40 am  

There are many many reasons why it would be an excellent idea to sign Rocky, he is already an excellent player with a fabulous skill set, add to that his goal kicking which is second to none in SL. Also note that like all half backs he is targeted in defense and wow does he stand up to that challenge or what, that defensive ability along with his all round game plus his blistering pace I think means that the national selectors should be knocking on his door, he will get even better remember he is only young. Last pre season Chester had it in mind to play Finn at 7 : Rocky was Chesters back up player. Rocky got his opportunity and grasped it with both hands he is now our first choice 7, I think a full pre season, more time to build his understanding with Miller will result in him and our half back partnership getting even better.
Excellent half backs are a scarce commodity, there is a risk signing an overseas player, will they settle, will their family be happy in UK, are they really any good etc etc plus they are expensive. So in Rocky we have a happy, settled player, who is popular in the player group, by signing Rocky you are reducing the risk factor he ticks all the boxes. Like wise Trinity would also be an excellent club for Rocky to commit to, we are a top 5 side with a settled squad, the fans love him, he knows he would be first choice 7, he looks like he enjoys playing with Miller.
I suspect that if he signs that playing in the Trinity team will make him a star and a much sort after player that will be a good thing for all parties.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:43 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Nice emotive word "Demands".

You have absolutely no idea what his money "demands" are. What did you think of Fifita's money "demands" last year or Arona's "demands" this year?

According to him Fifita was a rubbish signing anyway

Seriously do not have a problem with players/agents negotiating terms with the club, They have a short career and obviously want what is right for them and I don`t begrudge them for that at all. Just a shame that some agents out there in the game take advantage of young naive players for a pay day of there own. The guy behind SMTM seems to have a decent reputation within the game among players and clubs which is good.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:50 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Nice emotive word "Demands".

You have absolutely no idea what his money "demands" are. What did you think of Fifita's money "demands" last year or Arona's "demands" this year?

Dave and arona have both proved them selfs on and off the field for us time and time again and over a long period of time

They earned the right to make demands
Although I don't recall there agents making statements in the papers

Hampshire has earned the right to ask very little
He still has to prove him self

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:13 am  

musson wrote:

Dave and arona have both proved them selfs on and off the field for us time and time again and over a long period of time

They earned the right to make demands
Although I don't recall there agents making statements in the papers

Hampshire has earned the right to ask very little
He still has to prove him self

He certainly didn't do enough against Cas which surpeised me - even without Miller he looked clueless at times but then I suppose they all did.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:17 am  

musson wrote:

Dave and arona have both proved them selfs on and off the field for us time and time again and over a long period of time

They earned the right to make demands
Although I don't recall there agents making statements in the papers

Hampshire has earned the right to ask very little
He still has to prove him self

At the end of the day MC and CC found common ground with DF and TA. They either will or they won't with RH. Neither me, you nor BOJ will have any influence.

We can all transfer over to the "Slag Max Jowitt off" thread then.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:19 am  

I wonder if the sticking point is that we have a figure in mind for him as a back up halfback rather than our starting 7?

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:15 am  

homme vaste wrote:

I wonder if the sticking point is that we have a figure in mind for him as a back up halfback rather than our starting 7?

If that’s the case we’re playing a dangerous game, we could end up without Rocky and stuck to choose someone with lesser qualities I.e. Reynolds

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:25 am  

WakeyTrin1873 wrote:

If that’s the case we’re playing a dangerous game, we could end up without Rocky and stuck to choose someone with lesser qualities I.e. Reynolds

Not too sure you got my point... What if we have already signed a first choice 7 for next season and we are negotiating with RH to give him a contract that reflects been a cover for the halfs? IMO that is not playing a dangerous game as even if we lose out on him then we will still be able to pick up another back up half i`m sure, just maybe not the same quality.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:35 am  

homme vaste wrote:

I wonder if the sticking point is that we have a figure in mind for him as a back up halfback rather than our starting 7?

It all depends on how MC/CC are budgeting the squad.
I dont think that it's X for a HB and X for a prop, more about balancing the whole squad within the budget restraints that they have.
If there was a list of all players with their salaries, you may think that certain players age getting "too much" and that others are "cheap" and I certainly wouldn't want the task of keeping everyone happy, whilst trying to assemble a competitive squad on a relatively low overall budget, it must be an absolute nightmare.

Re: Rocky - Stick or twist : Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:48 am  

Would hate us to miss out on Hampshire and he then signs for Leeds and becomes a mainstay for years to come.