Re: Agar Out Part Four : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:24 pm  

I felt Huby and Clarke were your key players, when they went off we kind of got on the front foot. Scruton should be sent on loan to Doncaster to show him what its like, he's a professional he chose to leave Bradford to make him and his family safe we've done our part but we haven't got anything from him as of yet.

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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:32 pm  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

There was NO improvement. You must have been at a different match. There was 20 post halme mins when Cas got sleepy and made errors, letting us back in. There was also the appearance of Godinet who made a difference in taking us forward only to be taken off again. Utter rubbish is all I have to say and we were lucky not to have a bigger humiliation than we got

Same game different view.

I was disappointed at times today but I can't understand why you and Wilzay are so keen to blame Agar.

I have no doubt Wakefield stepped up after half time. There was a clear effort to make something happen.
Cas were caught off guard.
I don't get the poor defence points either. There were times where we had some great defence. On the line we held them out for a couple of sets.
What let us down was often individual mistakes. Like when we dropped the ball and they got the ball free. Lynn had loads of time to tackle him and got hands on him but just dropped off.
There was one where we made 5 strong tackles but then gave a stupid penalty away on the last and gave them a lift down field.

Added to that the position changes that have been mentioned.
I prefer Mathers at full back but Sammut certainly added something different. He made some tackles for a start.

Godinet was limping before he went off.
Changing Mathers to wing or centre when he and Lynn switched isn't an excuse for Mathers to be lazy.
That is Mathers not Agar.

Seems like a lot of the moaning is decided before the game.

I'd love to hear a plan to improve but I haven't seen it on here.

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:42 pm  

One plan would be to play players in their correct positions, another would to be to not play players clearly injured (Kirmond), another would be to show faith in your younger members of the squad and realise that McShane whilst quality isn't an 80 minute hooker and needed Wildie to spell with him. I'd add when players are either in form or struggling for form they should retain their spot or be replaced by another player fitted to that position. It'd also be nice to utilise our bench properly and all 4 subs rather then give them token 5 minutes at the end. It'd also be an idea that whilst Agar identify faults we would actually improve in these area's rather then see them week after week. There's plenty more, but I can't be bothered just like Agar and his ability to motivate the team

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:46 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Same game different view.

I was disappointed at times today but I can't understand why you and Wilzay are so keen to blame Agar.

I have no doubt Wakefield stepped up after half time. There was a clear effort to make something happen.
Cas were caught off guard.
I don't get the poor defence points either. There were times where we had some great defence. On the line we held them out for a couple of sets.
What let us down was often individual mistakes. Like when we dropped the ball and they got the ball free. Lynn had loads of time to tackle him and got hands on him but just dropped off.
There was one where we made 5 strong tackles but then gave a stupid penalty away on the last and gave them a lift down field.

Added to that the position changes that have been mentioned.
I prefer Mathers at full back but Sammut certainly added something different. He made some tackles for a start.

Godinet was limping before he went off.
Changing Mathers to wing or centre when he and Lynn switched isn't an excuse for Mathers to be lazy.
That is Mathers not Agar.

Seems like a lot of the moaning is decided before the game.

I'd love to hear a plan to improve but I haven't seen it on here.

"On the line we held thm out for a couple of sets". I can't see that as anything positive I'm afraid.
This is not Ameriacn football. We don't have offence and defence teams. You can't switch players around positions like a merri- go -ound and expect a consistent performance. It was hopeless, sorry. I admire your positivity but if you think that we improved to any significant level today then I would have to say I think you are wrong. Yes, we came out with a bit of fire in our bellies after half time. BUT Cas definitely switched off and made key errors that helped us a lot. Once they got their act together it went back to being one way traffic as it was for most of first half.

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:48 pm  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

One plan would be to play players in their correct positions, another would to be to not play players clearly injured (Kirmond), another would be to show faith in your younger members of the squad and realise that McShane whilst quality isn't an 80 minute hooker and needed Wildie to spell with him. I'd add when players are either in form or struggling for form they should retain their spot or be replaced by another player fitted to that position. It'd also be nice to utilise our bench properly and all 4 subs rather then give them token 5 minutes at the end. It'd also be an idea that whilst Agar identify faults we would actually improve in these area's rather then see them week after week. There's plenty more, but I can't be bothered just like Agar and his ability to motivate the team

Exactly correct

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:52 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

I actually thought you lot played OK however some of agars selections are bonkers. Mathers on the wing was a waste of a player and an insult to the player left out. Godinet has been a decent player so far, arguably in the bracket of on of your better players yet was off the field for large parts. Sykes is a cart horse. Defensively it reminded me of us under Millward, are the players bending their backs for the coach? You'll have enough to stay up but to progress its definitely time for a new coach.

First time I have smiled today...a Cas fan tells us the truth, though I think you are being generous in victory...Apart from a flicker from the corpse after half time, and 3 or 4 good individual efforts we were rank

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:56 am  

PopTart wrote:

There was a definite improvement today and a big improvement after half time.
Which of the errors was Agar at fault for?

For god's sake wake up and smell the coffee! When the team was read out you must have been asking questions? When the team ran out and lined up you must have been asking more? Agar clearly doesn't know who his starting 17 are. The sooner you realise Agar hasn't got a clue what he's doing the better!

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:45 am  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

One plan would be to play players in their correct positions, another would to be to not play players clearly injured (Kirmond), another would be to show faith in your younger members of the squad and realise that McShane whilst quality isn't an 80 minute hooker and needed Wildie to spell with him. I'd add when players are either in form or struggling for form they should retain their spot or be replaced by another player fitted to that position. It'd also be nice to utilise our bench properly and all 4 subs rather then give them token 5 minutes at the end. It'd also be an idea that whilst Agar identify faults we would actually improve in these area's rather then see them week after week. There's plenty more, but I can't be bothered just like Agar and his ability to motivate the team

Agree 100%

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Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:00 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

For god's sake wake up and smell the coffee! When the team was read out you must have been asking questions? When the team ran out and lined up you must have been asking more? Agar clearly doesn't know who his starting 17 are. The sooner you realise Agar hasn't got a clue what he's doing the better!

You are correct, I did wonder why.
And I was upset with the early performance, but none of it in my opinion was down to players out of position.
And I haven't seen a post that points one out yet.

I've seen plenty of people suggesting that both Sykes and Mathers play centre, and suggesting giving Harry a go.
Godinet is an international hooker. I would prefer him at scrum half but it's not like he can't play there.

Re: Agar Out Part Four : Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:29 am  

PopTart wrote:

There was a definite improvement today and a big improvement after half time.
Which of the errors was Agar at fault for?

All of them. It's his responsibility to ensure the players perform at their best. We are not.

Cas = a team playing greater than the sum of its parts.
Wakey = a team playing below the sum of its parts.

This is reminiscent of the worst days of Tony Smith, or even Peter Roe!