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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:52 am  
Regarding the last few posts made above.

Some of you say the players we have are under performing. Well I disagree, most are performing to their normal level and trying their best. The simple fact is that they just are not good enough. Many of us knew what they were capable of and their limitations when we signed them. They are only performing to a level we that we expected.

Some also say we have signed a world class coach. Well you can't have it both ways. If he is world class then his record with his doesn't suggest that. Also if he is world class, why are the players not performing properly as some of you are suggesting ?

Could it be we have a very good coach, but even he isn't capable of getting this squad to compete ?
Or our players are better than they are showing and our coach is not as good as is reputation ?
Or do we have poor players and a mediocre coach and they are all trying their best which is just not good enough ?

Lets hope they can all do their very best on Saturday and win us the game.
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:35 pm  
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I am sorry but anyone can reduce the clubs overheads, firstly sell the merchantable playing staff, second reduce the high earners and replace all with cheaper alternatives. Then you reduce the off field staff basically follow the austerity model.
I have said before that he is responsible for the on field performance because any coach can ask for a player but it will be the Chairman who decides what we can afford based on his calculations.
He has been here two seasons and in that time we have initially quite slowly seen the club regress but in the last season this has accelerated to the position we are in now.
Some say he stood up the the BOI the problem is he did not want to stay at Belle Vue he preferred Dewsbury which confirms to me he does not understand the connection between the ground and the supporters.
In conclusion if we are relegated he is responsible just like many would have said if Ted was still in charge.


What a t****r. you are. Without Carter their would be no club.
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:51 pm  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
I am sorry but anyone can reduce the clubs overheads, firstly sell the merchantable playing staff, second reduce the high earners and replace all with cheaper alternatives. Then you reduce the off field staff basically follow the austerity model.
I have said before that he is responsible for the on field performance because any coach can ask for a player but it will be the Chairman who decides what we can afford based on his calculations.
He has been here two seasons and in that time we have initially quite slowly seen the club regress but in the last season this has accelerated to the position we are in now.
Some say he stood up the the BOI the problem is he did not want to stay at Belle Vue he preferred Dewsbury which confirms to me he does not understand the connection between the ground and the supporters.
In conclusion if we are relegated he is responsible just like many would have said if Ted was still in charge.

One of the points you fail to register is who else in this great city has come forward to put their neck on the line and put their money where their mouth is??? answer NOBODY absolutely NOBODY. Also if he didnt tell the BOI he was giving notice on the lease for Belle Vue there wouldnt be a club for you to moan about next year! Are you really stupid?
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:55 pm  
It's fairly obvious that SP has an axe to grind with MC - and has been for some time; I'd guess he was connected to the Glover regime in some way, or has some other reason to be so relentlessly negative. I have little time either way for people who are so extreme in their viewpoint - positive or negative - that they can't see reason, and I'm afraid SP falls into the latter category.

It's not trolling per se, but it's equally pointless to respond.
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:05 pm  
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:45 pm  
very well said Mr Carter,think some of his critics should put up or shut up,the man has done his level best in running the club,he did,nt come in to see us giving the performances we have this season,he for one as tried is upmost,and yes he has made mistakes and I don't always agree with the signings but I don't know the ins and outs of the deals or what he as had to spend,i think he has tried to get the best value for the club rightly or wrongly,keep going mr Carter,i for one think you have done well for the club,lets hope we get the right result on sat
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:24 pm  
Yep well said, he's done a solid job and if we survive the weekend as a Super League Club then tomorrow is another day.

One slight amendment to what he said a couple of times, it's not all about winning, it's about competing and playing with a passion for the shirt and personal pride.
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:40 pm  
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Yep well said, he's done a solid job and if we survive the weekend as a Super League Club then tomorrow is another day.

One slight amendment to what he said a couple of times, it's not all about winning, it's about competing and playing with a passion for the shirt and personal pride.


Agree with this. If only the players had competed in at least some of the ridiculous losses we have sustained MC would not have had to endure a lot of the criticism thrown at him.
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:49 pm  


I haven't been on this forum for very long compared to others. I fully understand the reasons that you think you have been shafted by Yorkcourt and agree with you. I have always been puzzled though as to why you blame Box and WMDC. I watched this clip and down the right hand side of the screen were other suggested clips. One was titled Wakefields new ground gets the green light. In it James Elston seems to thank WMDC for all their help in getting final PP through. So whats changed? Its a genuine question as it was before my time on here.


I haven't been on this forum for very long compared to others. I fully understand the reasons that you think you have been shafted by Yorkcourt and agree with you. I have always been puzzled though as to why you blame Box and WMDC. I watched this clip and down the right hand side of the screen were other suggested clips. One was titled Wakefields new ground gets the green light. In it James Elston seems to thank WMDC for all their help in getting final PP through. So whats changed? Its a genuine question as it was before my time on here.
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Re: What Do You Think Mr Carter? : Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:40 am  
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