Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:11 am  

BOJ042 wrote:

its a mess!! and all that is going to happen is their is no stadium built and no Wakefield in super league.

Can I suggest this - and I will be prepared to get smacked down.

The Trust in its current form have had long enough to deliver on a stadium and for reasons we are told not of their doing have failed.

Maybe it is time to start again? SRW seems as sure as I have heard this will work?

Interesting view ... when did you speak to Sir Rodney about this??

And how did he explain his role in the Seven years of his previous involvement? The trust has only gained traction and started to shake things up since SRW was sidelined... odd that isn't it?

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:12 am  

Jackie brown wrote:

BOJ042,
It's a good job you live on another planet buddy.

Edit for accuracy JB.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:39 am  

£87 million to be won on the Euromillions this friday

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:57 am  

JINJER wrote:

And my gut feeling, F 'em, sit back and wait, then if it all goes tits up lets get the fans involved, if we can't get off our ass for something as important as this then be it on our own heads.

Oh I'm all for action if it is the sensible and right action, timed correctly. There are people on here including it seems MC himself, involved in the Trust(s); are you one of them? I will be guided by what they advise as they know all this the best. But if they recommend action, I'm in

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:02 am  

LyndsayGill wrote:

I'd love to ask Rodney Walker why he feels he can deliver a new stadium when he has been unable to do so for the last seven years. It can't just be the presence of Michael and Chris on the Trust as they have not been around for all of those seven years.

And I'd love Yorkcourt to explain why after a 'friendly and positive meeting' which included Chris, they decide on the 16th of June they cannot work with Chris (and Michael). Perhaps they ask too many difficult questions ?

Seven years?! More like 27. I remember in the early'90's when Mr. Walker was chairman of the club itself promising this that and the other. I remember getting excited seeing artists impressions of the shiny new stadium, which along with the signings of Jonathon Davies, Laurie Daley et al were going to see the rise of the once mighty Trinity once more as a major player in the world of RL. I'm pretty sure back then he was a millionaire, of course it's not all about finances, probably that's never been the main problem, but why anyone thought with Mr. Walker being involved that would actually lead to the thing being built i'll never know!! His track record in other ventures may have been successful, although I venture to suggest more on a personal level than anything else. He's dipped his toes in a few things sport wise, snooker I seem to recall, with limited success and impact. When he was chairman of Wakefield Trinity, he generally failed to deliver.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:03 am  

bellycouldtackle wrote:

To me this is all about money and I am not talking about revenue from running any new stadium. Following receipt of planning permission YC have always pleaded poverty, which is interesting as during the public inquiry hearings they had a hissy fit when the anti Newmarket team suggested that YC did not have the proverbial pot. YC went to great lengths to convince the Public Inquiry that they were financially strong and liquid. RW and Box allowed YC to build Newcold outsite the 106 agreement ie not counting towards the trigger point because they accepted YC argument that they were skint and needed Newcold to go ahead. For Some reason RW and Box kept this to themselves. YC have no intention of building a stadium at Newmarket, they know that RW and Box allowed them to ignore the 106 and they know that Box isn't bothered about a stadium. What YC want is the planning permission to build houses on the land at Newmarket that was designated for the stadium. We are talking about a massive net gain as they will not incur the build costs of the stadium but will rake in millions from house building. YC are still saying they are skint and that only when they have built and sold those houses will they have any money to put towards a stadium. This was why YC and RW were always pushing for a rebuild of BV, but YC wanted the cherry and the bun, give us planning for houses, we build them and only then will we give you any money, so never basically never. Now RW would have agreed to this and I presume told YC that he could get that deal agreed. RW when running the old Trust basically did as he wanted without having to answer to anyone, what Walker had not planned for was TRB, SC, IA, MC & CB getting on the trust and actually asking him what the hell was he doing. This I believe would be the reason he bloused out of the meeting and resigned from the Trust. So where is any money coming from to build a stadium, the moment we agree that the new stadium can be built away from Newmarket then IMO we are lost, the money has to come from YC as if they get what they want we are talking years and they will simply not pay up. We are talking about a company that has changed its name, closed various associate companies, taken directors of the board etc etc, during the previous years, they will have done this to protect themselves for any legal action that may occur in other words the party that is named in the 106 does not exist anymore.

Excellent, probably true and very depressing post.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:08 am  

But in all the years of the Trust, he's never bolted. There has to be a reason for that, and my impression is that he knows now it's going to happen. He could have just walked from the Trust and not looked back. The issue is whether the price for the new stadium is something we're prepared to pay, in terms of actual cost, the loss arising from it being done through a new Trust, and the morality of it.

Sometimes you've just got to suck it up. It stinks, but if it gets us a stadium and a level of involvement that is better financially than what we have, we've little choice, even if it is less than what it should have been.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:20 am  

This is all about not wanting Wakefield Trinity ie MICK & CHRIS earning too much profit/money from running the club in a new Community Stadium. In there ideal world Yorkcourt & SRW would prefer for Mick & Chris to walk away completely from the club and this would benefit them the most.

Yes it is a big Euromillions this week so every Trin fan should buy a ticket. Because you never know,if I won there would be a lovely big new Stadium for WT & Mick & Chris to run plus money they have lost.


Up The Trin

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:23 am  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

Oh I'm all for action if it is the sensible and right action, timed correctly. There are people on here including it seems MC himself, involved in the Trust(s); are you one of them? I will be guided by what they advise as they know all this the best. But if they recommend action, I'm in

No Charlie i'm not involved, had my stint with SWAG but the people involved with the trust deserve a medal.

Re: Statement from Wakefield & District Community Trust : Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:54 am  

As I've been saying all week - this will be about enabling YC to recoup some of their investment by changing the terms of the anchor tenancy; MC is bound to be oppositional to that, and SRW is likely to be in favour, if it gets the thing done and enhances his reputation - so they collude to remove MC from the negotiations, impose a deal that achieves what they want, and if MC won't play ball, they can throw their hands in the air and say they offered a facility and he wouldn't accept it.

It's a stitch-up, whichever way you look at it.