Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:44 am  

bren2k wrote:

That was my earlier point - he's not just quick, he has amazing agility and control; and his acceleration off the mark is unreal.

All that said - didn't some club stats last year say that Reece Lyne was the fastest in the squad over 60 metres?

If I recall it went

MCB slightly faster over 100m
TJ next
Lyne 3rd but was fast over the first 60.
Miller quick off the mark and over 30 meters

We all know that to be a great winger pace alone won't do it. Anticipation, positioning, balance and above all the bottle to go for it are what really count.

Lyne is a decent player but he hesitates, MCB a bit better but TJ rarely thinks twice. If he thinks he can score he's off and it that split second that makes all the difference imho. It just as much of a gift as his pace which is often made to look even better than it already is by this ability/

Offia was the master at this, he was quick but here were quicker but none were ever as certain to score as he was.

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:01 am  

Adam_Harrison9 wrote:

I've yet to see any evidence of this in a game. Not that I'm disputing it but even when he scored that full lengther against Leigh he looked like he was running through treacle for the last 20 metres. Lyne's game has improved massively as he's got slower that's the weird thing.

It was a stat from the training output - so I can't see how it would be untrue; but I take your point.

I guess the issue for Lyne is that he's more often than not running through traffic and trying to bust tackles - whereas when TJ gets into full flight, it's usually off a good pass from his centre, so Huddersfield wonder-try aside, he has more opportunity to just open up and run like buggery?

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:44 am  

bren2k wrote:

It was a stat from the training output - so I can't see how it would be untrue; but I take your point.

I guess the issue for Lyne is that he's more often than not running through traffic and trying to bust tackles - whereas when TJ gets into full flight, it's usually off a good pass from his centre, so Huddersfield wonder-try aside, he has more opportunity to just open up and run like buggery?

I love that - can just imagine them saying that to him in training - all you need to do is ^^^

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:13 pm  

vastman wrote:

If I recall it went

MCB slightly faster over 100m
TJ next
Lyne 3rd but was fast over the first 60.
Miller quick off the mark and over 30 meters

Just out of interest over 100m where do you think Hampshire would fit in a race against the others?

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:26 pm  

Fordy wrote:

I love that - can just imagine them saying that to him in training - all you need to do is ^^^

I did fear that using a technical expression like that might lose people - so I'm glad you're with me!

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:48 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Just out of interest over 100m where do you think Hampshire would fit in a race against the others?

Well, I watched Hampshire chase an in the clear TJ down and complete a tackle when playing for Cas (and then get sin binned, amusingly) so he is obviously no slouch. TJ was one or two games back from a leg fracture though if I remember correctly.

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:28 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

Just out of interest over 100m where do you think Hampshire would fit in a race against the others?

My guess would be
MCB
TJ
BJB
Hampshire
Lynne

Probably Tupou not far behind.

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:01 pm  

Cats13 wrote:

Well, I watched Hampshire chase an in the clear TJ down and complete a tackle when playing for Cas (and then get sin binned, amusingly) so he is obviously no slouch. TJ was one or two games back from a leg fracture though if I remember correctly.

That's why I asked the question as it's not often Hampshire gets the opportunity to show his pace, difficult to assess I suppose, with two different running styles with TJ and BJB, as against MCB and Rocky.

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:44 pm  

bren2k wrote:

I did fear that using a technical expression like that might lose people - so I'm glad you're with me!

It’s an old timers like myself phrase

Re: O'Connor comments on TJ wing technique : Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:32 pm  

I thought Chester had said that mcb was fastest over the first 30 and Johnstone was fastest over the 100?

That’s as I remember it anyway