Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:34 am  

Correct Belly. Mellor is an extremely talented player and his pairing with Gilmore can cause lots of problems for teams.
Yes, I think Mellor is EXCELLENT regardless of what some winkers feel.
I think it will be a tight game again but of course I hope we put them to the sword.

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:35 am  

bellycouldtackle wrote:

So Vasty your chum at Widnes must agree that Hanbury, Inu, Dudson, Houston, Whitley and Cahill can be regarded as excellent players. I would add Mellor and Gilmore to that list and would describe Mellor as a superb player. Its a joy to watch him play and when you consider the journey he has been on : cut by Wigan, knee surgeries etc then you simply have to admire is determination and rejoice in his success. I would also say that Dean, Olbison, Burke and Marsh are all good SL players.

No he doesn't and he'd laugh hystrically at that list.

Do you actually look at these players or just pick names.

As I said some were once good, Hanbury most notably and some may be one day but some of those simply are not.

Dean. Mellor and Olbison seriously, even for you! As for Huuston I think my mate would actually punch you for that one.

Why not just concentrate on our own players and stop slagging off players like Kirmond and stop trying to mythologise teams like Widnes for hevens sake. We are not a team of superstars so why pretend Widnes are!

We play Cas, Leeds and Saints soon, you can knock yourself out on doomsday scenarios then and your defeatism then but spare us the excellence of Widnes crud, nobody believes that not even people in Widnes.

Anyway you know I'm right and you luv it

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:36 am  

Manuel wrote:

Correct Belly. Mellor is an extremely talented player and his pairing with Gilmore can cause lots of problems for teams.
Yes, I think Mellor is EXCELLENT regardless of what some winkers feel.
I think it will be a tight game again but of course I hope we put them to the sword.

So people who don't rate Mellor are winkers. grow up.

So you think this is Mellor do you

Dictionary definition
1.extremely good; outstanding.
"the lorry was in excellent condition"
synonyms: very good, superb, outstanding, magnificent, of high quality, of the highest quality, of the highest standard, exceptional, marvellous, wonderful, sublime, perfect, eminent, pre-eminent, matchless, peerless, supreme, first-rate, first-class, superior, superlative,

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:13 pm  

27292 posts, people may come to the conclusion you are self opinionated.
meaning
"having and expressing very strong feelings and beliefs, and believing that your own ideas are the only correct ones"

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:32 pm  

You can say what you like about Vasty, and many do, but he certainly does not opt, unlike so many people in the modern world, to reside in an echo chamber, where he only interacts with people who share his thoughts and opinions.

Maybe it's not that scientific, and he's just an argumentative old git?

Either way, I'd like to make him uncomfortable by agreeing that that list of 'excellent' Widnes players is mostly poppycock; I rate Inu (situationally, because he's lazy) and Hanbury - the rest are, like many of our squad, average SL players, in which case the points of difference are very much around coaching and how the team as a whole out-performs the sum of its parts.

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:39 pm  

Maybe it's not that scientific, and he's just an argumentative old git?

correct

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:59 pm  

If you reserve the word excellent for players like Gilmore and Dudson then what word do we use for the likes of Cameron Smith and Billy Slater?

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:02 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

If you reserve the word excellent for players like Gilmore and Dudson then what word do we use for the likes of Cameron Smith and Billy Slater?

World Class?

Some people man...

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:06 pm  

vastman wrote:

So people who don't rate Mellor are winkers. grow up.

So you think this is Mellor do you

Dictionary definition
1.extremely good; outstanding.
"the lorry was in excellent condition"
synonyms: very good, superb, outstanding, magnificent, of high quality, of the highest quality, of the highest standard, exceptional, marvellous, wonderful, sublime, perfect, eminent, pre-eminent, matchless, peerless, supreme, first-rate, first-class, superior, superlative,

Yeahhhh the boiz you tell em' Vasty,

Re: 19 for Widnes : Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:08 pm  

Trinity18 wrote:

World Class?

Some people man...

Nice one Trinity18

Out of our squad i think Fifita and Johnstone are excellent.

Players like Ashurst and Arona who are far, far ahead of the likes of Dudson would not even been on that list, i have them down as good players.