Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:00 pm  

What I find most worrying is that not only how we were beaten but in the last two games both teams have lost the services of what are perceived to be their most influential players in Lui and Gale whilst we were still in the contention.

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:03 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

The effort was there but the execution was dire. He seems to dodge criticism but for me Miller has been poor for a while now, he just doesn’t seem to be linking up particularly well with anyone. The backs are getting slow ball and his one get out move seems to be chuck it to Tupou and hope he can bulldoze through. Well teams are wise to this and he needs to expand his repertoire. We need to find some cohesion from somewhere, although a couple of under-performing forwards could do with putting a better shift in to give a better platform.

We won’t be in the middle 8’s but 7th is likely the best we can hope for. Given all the talk of thos beong our best ever squad that will be disappointing in my book.

I genuinely thought Tupou had got rid of his phobia of passing to his winger last season but it appears to have come back.
You only have to look at Charnley at Wire, he's scored something like 10 tries in 8 games since his return. I think Toby King got a telling off at half time when they played against Widnes, because he had the opportunity to pass the ball to Charnley but kept hold of it, in the second half King started giving him the ball and he scored a couple.
This is the problem we have, we have pace on the wings but the ball doesn't get to them, they spend most of their time taking the ball up out of their own 20.
We've got a centre at the club who is the best centre at the club who can tackle and knows how and when to pass to his winger, unfortunately he didn't play tonight.

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:04 pm  

Thought pp had a decent game the other poster is right about miller he is off form and is invisible also in my opinion some of our front rowers seem to be second best in every game on paper they should match anybody we look a shadow of the team last season .

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:10 pm  

FickleFingerOfFate wrote:

I genuinely thought Tupou had got rid of his phobia of passing to his winger last season but it appears to have come back.
You only have to look at Charnley at Wire, he's scored something like 10 tries in 8 games since his return. I think Toby King got a telling off at half time when they played against Widnes, because he had the opportunity to pass the ball to Charnley but kept hold of it, in the second half King started giving him the ball and he scored a couple.
This is the problem we have, we have pace on the wings but the ball doesn't get to them, they spend most of their time taking the ball up out of their own 20.
We've got a centre at the club who is the best centre at the club who can tackle and knows how and when to pass to his winger, unfortunately he didn't play tonight.

Agree entirely about Arundel. The lad is the best all round centre at the club and never lets us down, I thought last week he was one of precious few who didn’t do anything wrong. Yet he is always the first one to get dropped. He’s probably regretting signing that contract last year, he would be getting plenty of game time at other clubs.

Still i suppose the question is who gets left out?

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:15 pm  

Start of the season I said top 8 finish and new stadium signed off would be the best season I've had in my 35 years watching the mighty Trin. Still hoping it will happen.

Up the Trin

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:16 pm  

We weren't great but were unlucky in a few moments. Had that try been given, which clearly was a try, it could have turned out differently. We were building a head of steam in the second half but we lost it with that.

Next three games are crucial, as all are winnable. Do them and we start to open up a gap with 9th. I'd settle for avoiding the Middle 8's and a pop at Wembley.

What is apparent that either players have resolved to drive fans away with their determination to spoil at the ruck, or else Hicks is determined to ref a game out of excitement. I appreciate the former leads to the latter, but Brian McDermott is right in that games don't ebb and flow. Wrestle, penalty, wrestle, knock-on, wrestle, penalty, and so it goes on. Tonight's game was a dreadful spectacle, and it was all down to the constant messing by both sets of players. Will someone tell the teams that this is an entertainment business.

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:18 pm  

So I mentioned a few weeks ago I didn't know where your next win was coming from then after saints rested a few you got a good win.
But when Salford humiliated you it was always going to be one way traffic tonight,Castleford we not good again tonight but you were dire.
If KR beat you next week the bottom 4 is nailed on

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:36 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

The pack is getting dominated yardage for is poor and yardage against huge. Watts was making 10 to 15m every carry. We really need big Dave back and the rest to toughen up in defence and run harder with the ball.

Those saying about Finn being too slow he may have no speed in his legs but he has it between the ears. No control or direction without him.

Execution and passing was terrible tonight too slow, behind the man no second phase.

Miller and Hampshire didn’t take on the line enough just shipped the ball on.

Effort was there but that can only get you so far.

Really need to find a performance next week to stop the rot

Well I've read all through the thread and I think you've summed it up best mate. The effort certainly was there from most and I thought pauli put a real shift in but the Cas pack did look stronger in both attack and defence.
I think you do have a very decent squad especially in the backs . However you have just given a big contract to Miller who hasn't an ounce of creativity in him. No way will you finish in the bottom 4 (theres an interesting mini competition building between you and Salford) but if you want to compete for the top 4 rather than just be content to be in Super League you have to aim higher than Miller.

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:43 pm  

roverman wrote:

Thought pp had a decent game the other poster is right about miller he is off form and is invisible also in my opinion some of our front rowers seem to be second best in every game on paper they should match anybody we look a shadow of the team last season .

Are you serious about PP???
He looks either unfit or just plain lazy.
For the size of the bloke he should be ripping it up but he stands out in the centres when the hard yards need to be made.

Re: Poor Poor Poor : Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:46 pm  

Egg Banjo wrote:

7 loss7es in the last 8 games and only scoring 2 tries in the last 2 games. This is beyond a joke now, we're not even competing in the losses any more. We offer no attacking threat what so ever. I agree, I can't really see where the next win will come from and we look like we'll be lucky to make the MPG with the strength in the championship this year

I get slagged off for what you say.chester is not the man kear carried him