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Re: Worrying? : Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:30 pm  
Think it was down to the coach we did not make top 5 .Changing the team all year .Hirst no way near a S L player . In all matches against Hudds we have looked by far the fittest team but for some reason seem to get penalise more against them.Do not there's a lot wrong with fitness.
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Re: Worrying? : Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:51 pm  
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Worrying? No. Frustrating, yes. So near and yet so far, so often!
It has been much said but before I go on, I want to make it clear that I think what Michael Carter and this group of players have achieved is incredible, for all the reasons many of us have said. I respect every single one of them immensely. But if we are to go any further I think it is fair to make constructive comments. We have had 3 very good seasons by our standards, last year marginally the better but the last 2 years there has been a consistent pattern of coming close but losing by a narrow margin when we ought to have won, periods of games when we implode and matches now and then when we just don't show up, especially after defeating top 4 sides.
This season the biggest issue for me has been interchanges. We simply cannot have a period where we have Fifita and Pauli off the field together and if you have that period when Wood isn't on, it gets worse.
Also, I am not sure on this point but I will say it anyway and see what you think. Miller's missed tackle stats must be influencing something? 2 seasons in a row the top missed tackle player in the league. This is perhaps most frustrating of all as I love watching him play with ball in hand.
So what can we do about all those issues? Well, spending fortunes isn't an option. But I don't see why, when fit, we can't have one or the other of Fifita and Pauli on the pitch. We need another forward with real punch to add to the squad, which might alleviate that issue too. Miller? I just don't know but I probably think he offers so much in attack that we should try to find ways of covering for his defence errors and training the backside off him to improve in that department. I hate singling anyone out but I'm afraid Hirst just does not quite have it at SL level for me though I feel he has given his all for us and I really admire him for that. But the lack of punch is probably most noticeable in him. I don't think we have used Bachelor enough. Whether some knocks kept him out sometimes I didn't know but there were times I could not understand his lack of selection. Not used Annikin enough either, though he did have a bad injury a while I know.
As a coach, I would give Chris B+ but he needs to learn when to make quick interchanges when we look like our meltdown is starting. He sat on his hands on Friday night when the sin-binning was taking hold and after it as we continued to be poor. We needed the big guns on and he left Pauli on a bike and Fifita on the bench. Not the first time I have thought he was slow to react either this season.
As I say, not meant as some slagging off; overall I think we have been superb and I am so happy and grateful to all concerned that we have a team and club to be proud of and that we are usually a competitive side that people are wary of playing right up to the league leaders and champions. But, if we are to progress, That's just a few things I have mulled over.
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Re: Worrying? : Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:29 pm  
Defence Defence Defence!! We are great with ball in hand but concede far too many tries especially out wide. The top 4 sides rarely concede more than 4, we've slipped back in the second half of the season to conceding 6 or 7 a game again after being really on the mettle in the earlier part of the season. If we wanna step up to the next level like we almost did last season then we have to improve defensively, my take on it anyway.
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Re: Worrying? : Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:39 pm  
Don’t think it’s a money thing myself as they have proven they can compete with the big teams on numerous occasions,then succumb to teams we should brush aside.you only have to look at Leeds for this theory.
It’s got to be their mental state or focus that gets the team up and down for games that is erratic to say the least .
Not another team in super league blows a team out of the water one week with champagne rugby then puts a performance in like at hudds .
I haven’t a clue what goes into coaching a team and I may be way of the mark but from where I sit the only thing that’s holds them back is mental toughness and a belief in them self’s .
How this is fixed I don’t know and it’s just my opinion.
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Re: Worrying? : Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:04 pm  
this current squad will not achieve again what they almost did last year...

we need a new direction in attack - I even think Miller could do more or be replaced .

agree with Hirst surely we look somewhere else next year
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Re: Worrying? : Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:27 am  
We are not that far away yes we could do with a new face in the front row but the weak link for 3 seasons has being halfback Miller far too inconsistent and Finn simply not good enough at SL level Hampshire is worth another year
We also have two other ageing players who spend more time in the treatment room than on the field
If MCB is going I would like to see the 2 above offloaded and the combined salary of the 4 put to bringing in 1 class scrum half in

I would also hope that the up and coming super 8 games are used to give some of the younger squad players a game or 2 Crowther etc
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Re: Worrying? : Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:44 am  
Agree with some posters we need to clear some of the decks like Hirst and MCB as taking up squad spots and either not getting a game or not playing to level required. Would like to think these could be replaced with the likes of kopczak and other quality players to fill the spaces. Perhaps then when we need to rotate this makes have strength in depth
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