Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:55 am  

PopTart wrote:

Being sent home from work doesn't mean you are not being paid. I'm one of those people.
The hardship is more likely on small traders who have no customers.... Much like Trinity.

But in this case I don't know why a refund is even a discussion. As far as I know the games are being deferred so your season ticket would still allow you to see games later in the year.

A very naive statement. If you are on a zero hours contract like many in the leisure industry you won’t be getting paid. If you are self employed you won’t be getting paid. £94 pound a week statutory sick pay doesn’t go far if you are hourly paid and catch the virus either. And thats without those that lose their jobs altogether.

As for the argument and can see a point and i think plenty will ask for either their money back or a heavily discounted ticket next season. You buy a ticket for an event and in return you expect to see a performance. The season ticket is effectively a 14 game entrance agreement between you and the club and there hsve only brrn two of those provided to date. Theatres are currently closing and cancelling shows, likewise music concerts and people with tickets are rightly being refunded. People with plane bookings are getting their money back as their flights are grounded. Sport can be no different. If the season can be finished then fine, there is no obligation to refund. But if it is forced to be cancelled then the club (and/or even the RFL) should have cancellation insurance in place to cover these losses for instances like these and should be able to offer refunds. Claiming on that means neither party loses out.

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:52 am  

Have the government actually banned it though? Or advised people not to go and then RFL/SL have made the decision to stop the games?

If so then insurance won't cover it, much like the theatre business the PM has advised people not to go but hasn't banned it.

They are more or less screwed because they can't claim anything back.

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:14 am  

charlie wrote:

Have the government actually banned it though? Or advised people not to go and then RFL/SL have made the decision to stop the games?

If so then insurance won't cover it, much like the theatre business the PM has advised people not to go but hasn't banned it.

They are more or less screwed because they can't claim anything back.

If the governing body shuts down games (and eventually cancels) then that should be enough for individual clubs to invoke an insurance claim. They have been prevented from operating by an external organisation.

As for theatres, pubs etc at this point its not an official ban but it will come as people won’t adhere strictly enough to the guidelines. Give it 3 weeks and most things will be shut down.

[PopTart]

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:24 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:

A very naive statement. If you are on a zero hours contract like many in the leisure industry you won’t be getting paid. If you are self employed you won’t be getting paid. £94 pound a week statutory sick pay doesn’t go far if you are hourly paid and catch the virus either. And thats without those that lose their jobs altogether.

As for the argument and can see a point and i think plenty will ask for either their money back or a heavily discounted ticket next season. You buy a ticket for an event and in return you expect to see a performance. The season ticket is effectively a 14 game entrance agreement between you and the club and there hsve only brrn two of those provided to date. Theatres are currently closing and cancelling shows, likewise music concerts and people with tickets are rightly being refunded. People with plane bookings are getting their money back as their flights are grounded. Sport can be no different. If the season can be finished then fine, there is no obligation to refund. But if it is forced to be cancelled then the club (and/or even the RFL) should have cancellation insurance in place to cover these losses for instances like these and should be able to offer refunds. Claiming on that means neither party loses out.

I should explained that when I said small traders I meant self employed in any way.
We don't disagree.

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:28 am  

PopTart wrote:

I should explained that when I said small traders I meant self employed in any way.
We don't disagree.

Fair enough.

One thing for sure this is going to change the way we live our lives for quite a while and it is likely to be a weird few months.

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:06 pm  

little wayne69 wrote:

They do anyway snowie thanks to the likes of asda and morrisons.

The smoking ban seemed to be the catalyst for many of the pubs shutting.
Mind you, for the non smokers out there, if Coronavirus doesn't get us, a smoke free world probably means we're going to live that bit longer.

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:27 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

If the governing body shuts down games (and eventually cancels) then that should be enough for individual clubs to invoke an insurance claim. They have been prevented from operating by an external organisation.

As for theatres, pubs etc at this point its not an official ban but it will come as people won’t adhere strictly enough to the guidelines. Give it 3 weeks and most things will be shut down.

Bugger..... I was hoping to self isolate in the local.

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:54 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

Bugger..... I was hoping to self isolate in the local.

If I were your good lady wife, I’d isolate you in the cupboard under stairs, how the hell can she possibly put up with you shut inside your home for weeks. Come to think of it, this could be millions of couples getting on each other’s nerves by the end of isolation. At least we could let off steam once a week shouting at James Child or other suitable candidates. Oh happy days, I’m missing them already

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:56 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

If I were your good lady wife, I’d isolate you in the cupboard under stairs, how the hell can she possibly put up with you shut inside your home for weeks. Come to think of it, this could be millions of couples getting on each other’s nerves by the end of isolation. At least we could let off steam once a week shouting at James Child or other suitable candidates. Oh happy days, I’m missing them already

I’m often confined to the cupboard under the stairs, apparently the neighbours can hear me sobbing

[PopTart]

Re: Season tickets : Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:23 pm  

Big lads mate wrote:

Bugger..... I was hoping to self isolate in the local.

Self isolation would have been great with sport on TV too.