Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:45 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

Who's gonna keep up with him to receive the pass?

Prime example was Croft being unable to back BJB up last weekend.

True but was thinking more into the future when the pace begins to fade.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:02 pm  

PopTart wrote:

So do I. I'm just saying, the more that I do see, is better served on the wing.

No one ever tried to move Martin Ofiiah.
FB has very different angles of running, more pressure under high ball stood still, link play with backline and managing the defense.
TJ has never had to do any of that before.

Also one of his best skills is finishing in the corner with no space. He wouldn't use that at all at fullback.

I'm sure he'd make a good go of it but why change one of your best assets?

Not strictly correct, Tom played a lot at FB as a youngster. Obviously his pace soon dictated his adult position. He could probably play FB or Centre very well given the chance. However to me he seems more than happy where he is and as they say If it ain’t broke.....

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:21 pm  

vastman wrote:

Not strictly correct, Tom played a lot at FB as a youngster. Obviously his pace soon dictated his adult position. He could probably play FB or Centre very well given the chance. However to me he seems more than happy where he is and as they say If it ain’t broke.....

I don`t subscribe to that quote for the same reason you mention in the comment above about pace, it implies you should just wait it out until it does eventually fail before doing anything to improve it or "Fix it" - For instance a move to centre for Tom in the next couple of years would potentially prolong his career as a top level SL or even NRL player by a few years, as soon as pace starts to fade for a winger that is more or less them done at the very top of the game, in the here and now things are working well for him but who knows in a few years time we may look back and think that a big opportunity was missed.

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Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:00 pm  

Still don't get why you'd want to move him from a position in which he excels. I'm sure he wouldn't be rubbish but I can't imagine he will be a better centre or fullback than he is a winger.

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Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:01 pm  

In terms of the squad for today. I'd go with the strongest possible to win the game.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:12 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

Always said this with TJ, it is something that you see a lot in the NRL, those real special players that play in the centre or the wing usually end up becoming great fullbacks, granted in a lot of cases some of those played a lot of junior rugby at FB but there is the likes of Valentine Holmes and Billy Slater that played majority of junior grade on the wing and started first grade on the wing before moving to FB.

A good example at South Sydney Rabbitohs, Alex Johnston a fantastic winger has to lay there but prefers the full back position, can't get a game there though when Lattrel Mitchell is fit.

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Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:10 pm  

Well the 17 is different to what I expected.
No TJ or Miller.
It'll be tough for the half backs but to have a chance our forwards have to dominate.

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:12 pm  

Team announced bit of a wierd one and weak one for me.no miller wood at half back with baily bowes starting no johnstone or crowther and 4 props on bench but kelepi starts at prop....

Team
Hampshire
Senior
Billy
Lynne
Bjb
Baily
Wood
Arona
Bowes
Kelepi
Batchlor
Pitts
B walker
Subs

Fifita
Koppy
Green
Battye

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:19 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Still don't get why you'd want to move him from a position in which he excels. I'm sure he wouldn't be rubbish but I can't imagine he will be a better centre or fullback than he is a winger.

This is my point, it `could` have been looked at sooner, for whatever reason it hasn't been explored, maybe he doesn't want to?

A winger can only have so much influence on a game of Rugby league, I remember Ben Ikin a couple seasons back on NRL 365 out right saying Valentine Holmes was one of the finest wingers to ever play the game! A year later he was playing fullback why would they want to move him from a position he was deemed to be one of the best in the world at? You see it all over the NRL, they take there best players in terms of natural ability and make sure that they have as much influence on a game as possible, that said there training on the technical aspect of these specialist positions is way beyond anything that we see in Super League

Re: 21 for Salford game : Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:26 pm  

Trinityknight wrote:

Team announced bit of a wierd one and weak one for me.no miller wood at half back with baily bowes starting no johnstone or crowther and 4 props on bench but kelepi starts at prop....

Team
Hampshire
Senior
Billy
Lynne
Bjb
Baily
Wood
Arona
Batchlor
Pitts
B walker
Subs

Fifita
Koppy
Green
Battye

We only playing with 15 ?????

You missed Licorice and Tanginoa