Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:17 pm  

Unfortunately it’s a no brainer isn’t it. I like grass always have and we all know that Bellevue has by far one of the best grass pitches of all the grounds around. But grass has its limitations. How many games a year can the pitch take? Certainly not a 12 month a year week in week out program. So unless we want to stick to a trinity only stadium then 4g it has to be.
The stadium has to be able to fulfil its commercial potential, let’s say that at some point we did get relegated (Never going to happen) then we’d be playing in a over the top, shell of a ground with little to no income/support. Then at least the stadium would hopefully be able to finance itself through other sports fixtures and not become a huge burden to the club like it has in the past. I don’t remember the council buying the ground off us originally (70’s/80’s) I think because it was making trinity too much money?
We will get used to the 4g and in a generation nobody will remember the grass. For me it’s all about being here in another generation and I think this will do that.

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:46 pm  

CM Punk wrote:

Having played American Football on 3G, 4G & Grass pitches, I can say that 4G is miles ahead of 3G and not that far behind grass in terms of comfort. I believe Widnes is a 3G pitch, which is where you get the rubber crumb balls on the surface (A teammate of mine once got some of those stuck behind their eyeball, that was not a pleasant injury) whereas 4G doesn't need them. It may need to be watered pre-game during summer to reduce friction burns, but other than that it's as good as a good grass pitch.

Widnes’ is and always has been a 4G pitch since the grass was ripped up.

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:48 pm  

FIL wrote: Isn't 4G out-dated now....I thought we were now on 5G ??? good selection on here explaining all 2g, 3g, 4g, 5g, 6g, Synthetic and hybrid https://www.sispitches.com/the-definiti ... nd-beyond/

FIL wrote: Isn't 4G out-dated now....I thought we were now on 5G ??? good selection on here explaining all 2g, 3g, 4g, 5g, 6g, Synthetic and hybrid https://www.sispitches.com/the-definiti ... nd-beyond/

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:49 pm  

comeontrinity wrote:

Unfortunately it’s a no brainer isn’t it. I like grass always have and we all know that Bellevue has by far one of the best grass pitches of all the grounds around. But grass has its limitations. How many games a year can the pitch take? Certainly not a 12 month a year week in week out program. So unless we want to stick to a trinity only stadium then 4g it has to be.
The stadium has to be able to fulfil its commercial potential, let’s say that at some point we did get relegated (Never going to happen) then we’d be playing in a over the top, shell of a ground with little to no income/support. Then at least the stadium would hopefully be able to finance itself through other sports fixtures and not become a huge burden to the club like it has in the past. I don’t remember the council buying the ground off us originally (70’s/80’s) I think because it was making trinity too much money?
We will get used to the 4g and in a generation nobody will remember the grass. For me it’s all about being here in another generation and I think this will do that.

Wonder why Aussies haven't gone for 3g4g still artificial wonder if it's owt that rugby and soccer play on grass

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:50 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Widnes’ is and always has been a 4G pitch since the grass was ripped up.

didn't widnes pitch have rubber crumb if so it would of been 3g

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:57 pm  

snowie wrote: didn't widnes pitch have rubber crumb if so it would of been 3g I was going by this article from 2011 when it was installed. It could be wrong and things have moved on anyway. One thing for sure though is that 4G pitches are fully synthetic and i personally have never been a fan of playing on artificial pitches. If you’ve got a niggle it tends to aggravate it. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/widnes-to-play-on-artificial-pitch/

snowie wrote: didn't widnes pitch have rubber crumb if so it would of been 3g I was going by this article from 2011 when it was installed. It could be wrong and things have moved on anyway. One thing for sure though is that 4G pitches are fully synthetic and i personally have never been a fan of playing on artificial pitches. If you’ve got a niggle it tends to aggravate it. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/widnes-to-play-on-artificial-pitch/

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:07 pm  

try scorer wrote:

Wonder why Aussies haven't gone for 3g4g still artificial wonder if it's owt that rugby and soccer play on grass

Wonder why the RFU poured 50 million into an artificial pitch fund to push pro clubs to replace there playing surface?

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Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:26 pm  

Surely the Aussies have a different problem.
They don't need arteficial grass because, a) they have loads of land so a community stadium could be just build next door. B) they need irrigation to improve the longevity of their pitch not arteficial grass c) AFL and soccer grounds already have some artificial grounds but the ones I've seen are predominantly in Melbourne where the weather is more like ours.

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:45 pm  

snowie wrote: good selection on here explaining all 2g, 3g, 4g, 5g, 6g, Synthetic and hybrid https://www.sispitches.com/the-definiti ... nd-beyond/ Interesting article. I’m a little concerned re the paragraph 4G “Synthetic grass without a need for rubber crumb It is important to note that technologies beyond 3G (4G, 5G, 6G etc.) have not been yet recognised by sports governing bodies. 5G Synthetic grass without a need for rubber crumb 6G Synthetic grass without a need for rubber crumb This article is dated March 2019, I’m not aware if any sport’s governing bodies have approved the G4 system.

snowie wrote: good selection on here explaining all 2g, 3g, 4g, 5g, 6g, Synthetic and hybrid https://www.sispitches.com/the-definiti ... nd-beyond/ Interesting article. I’m a little concerned re the paragraph 4G “Synthetic grass without a need for rubber crumb It is important to note that technologies beyond 3G (4G, 5G, 6G etc.) have not been yet recognised by sports governing bodies. 5G Synthetic grass without a need for rubber crumb 6G Synthetic grass without a need for rubber crumb This article is dated March 2019, I’m not aware if any sport’s governing bodies have approved the G4 system.

Re: 4G Pitch. : Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:18 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Widnes’ is and always has been a 4G pitch since the grass was ripped up.

Wrong

It was a 3G pitch when laid it was due to be replaced in 2018 with a 4G pitch. Don’t know if that’s been done yet.

The pitch people on here are on about was 3G and always was once the grass was ripped up. Sorry.