Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:14 pm  

We now know the full list of teams for next season therefore based on our recent form it gives us a chance to compare squads. I know that the start is some weeks away but the teams around us appear to be putting together their squads quite quickly. I think even the most die hard Wakefield supporter must say that Hull KR for example have strengthened whilst we have so far failed to do so. I hope we are not holding back to see what is left in order to pick them up cheap because we need to hit the ground running with all the squad knowing the game plan (when we have one).
I expect the usual will say I am being negative but it is a concern because we must stay in Super League and our performances over the last two years have not exactly helped allay these concerns.

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:29 pm  

Trinityknight wrote:

Think any wakefied fan happy with this are not thinking things through as this increases our chances of relagation ourselves leigh will not be pushovers and wd havent exactly strengthened

In what way have we not strengthened?

Does Mason Lino not count? It now seems clear we are in for Battye, now a known SL quantity and whoever else we sign, clearly we have irons in the fire.

More to the point we should start next season with a host of fit-again players. TJ, Arundel, Fifita, Arona, Tupou all back to full fitness and a fair few others. Do you not in any way think this will make a difference?

Well, I'll tell you now it will and in a very big way.

I can't promise you we will be up there with Saints or Warrington but if Leigh can assemble a team even close to what we will hopefully have available I'll be amazed. I'm sure they will give it a go and may do well. We, however, are overdue a bit of an upturn after two very tough and unlucky seasons.

So as far as I'm concerned we've thought it through, you are just being negative for the sake of it, honestly, I'm never really sure what people like you get out of the game. Sure all seasons have the potential to go pear-shaped, ditto the other way around but why assume so with no real evidence to back it up baffles me.

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:34 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

In what way have we not strengthened?

Does Mason Lino not count? It now seems clear we are in for Battye, now a known SL quantity and whoever else we sign, clearly we have irons in the fire.

More to the point we should start next season with a host of fit-again players. TJ, Arundel, Fifita, Arona, Tupou all back to full fitness and a fair few others. Do you not in any way think this will make a difference?

Well, I'll tell you now it will and in a very big way.

I can't promise you we will be up there with Saints or Warrington but if Leigh can assemble a team even close to what we will hopefully have available I'll be amazed. I'm sure they will give it a go and may do well. We, however, are overdue a bit of an upturn after two very tough and unlucky seasons.

So as far as I'm concerned we've thought it through, you are just being negative for the sake of it, honestly, I'm never really sure what people like you get out of the game. Sure all seasons have the potential to go pear-shaped, ditto the other way around but why assume so with no real evidence to back it up baffles me.

We have has of yet not strengthened lino is an unknown quanity and qe have lost our 2nd best winger in bish for me this will make us weaker battye is not a done deal so at this moment in time we are no stronger

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:11 pm  

Trinityknight wrote:

We have has of yet not strengthened lino is an unknown quanity and qe have lost our 2nd best winger in bish for me this will make us weaker battye is not a done deal so at this moment in time we are no stronger

So where have Leigh strengthened exactly? Justify where Leigh is going to get these players from, other than the defunct Toronto team? Leigh finished 4th in 2019 in the Championship yet you are giving them m full SL accreditation, why?

Again do quality players coming back from long term injuries not count in your world?

Do players like Wood and Walker and young Harry Bowes who made their mark last season not count.

Does the fact that players like Jowitt, Batchelor and Crowther are now players starting to reach their peak, does that not count?

Building a team is not all about signings, it's about the balance and building, why do you assume they're all these magic bullet signing out there? Why not instead look for growth within, that's how the best clubs do it, only mugs think you can buy success.

Finally, Mason Lino is not an 'unknown quantity' any more than any other signing with a fair few NRL games under his belt. In fact if you go on youtube or the Knights forum you'll see he's a very 'known' quantity. Who are these known quantities of which you speak?

NB: If we have lost BJB it's certainly not been made official unless I missed it, he's out of contract, that is not the same thing!

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:28 pm  

This is their 2020 squad, but this will clearly change now they are in SL as Derek will obviously be getting his cheque book out again... https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/v2/2020-leigh- ... ons-squad/

This is their 2020 squad, but this will clearly change now they are in SL as Derek will obviously be getting his cheque book out again... https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/v2/2020-leigh- ... ons-squad/

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:34 pm  

FIL wrote: This is their 2020 squad, but this will clearly change now they are in SL as Derek will obviously be getting his cheque book out again... https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/v2/2020-leigh- ... ons-squad/ He can bankrupt himself because as we know there ain't a lot out there and what is seems to be tied up. I'm delighted for Leigh but SL is a lot tighter than it was when they were last in, especially in the 'lower six'. It's going to be very difficult, they are going to have to do a London and work with what they have imho. My issue with the poster is his idea that Leigh is any more dangerous to us than any other promoted team. They are all potentially a threat but that's all it is for now.

FIL wrote: This is their 2020 squad, but this will clearly change now they are in SL as Derek will obviously be getting his cheque book out again... https://leighrl.co.uk/wp/v2/2020-leigh- ... ons-squad/ He can bankrupt himself because as we know there ain't a lot out there and what is seems to be tied up. I'm delighted for Leigh but SL is a lot tighter than it was when they were last in, especially in the 'lower six'. It's going to be very difficult, they are going to have to do a London and work with what they have imho. My issue with the poster is his idea that Leigh is any more dangerous to us than any other promoted team. They are all potentially a threat but that's all it is for now.

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:57 pm  

Fishermanscap wrote:

So where have Leigh strengthened exactly? Justify where Leigh is going to get these players from, other than the defunct Toronto team? Leigh finished 4th in 2019 in the Championship yet you are giving them m full SL accreditation, why?

Again do quality players coming back from long term injuries not count in your world?

Do players like Wood and Walker and young Harry Bowes who made their mark last season not count.

Does the fact that players like Jowitt, Batchelor and Crowther are now players starting to reach their peak, does that not count?

Building a team is not all about signings, it's about the balance and building, why do you assume they're all these magic bullet signing out there? Why not instead look for growth within, that's how the best clubs do it, only mugs think you can buy success.

Finally, Mason Lino is not an 'unknown quantity' any more than any other signing with a fair few NRL games under his belt. In fact if you go on youtube or the Knights forum you'll see he's a very 'known' quantity. Who are these known quantities of which you speak?

NB: If we have lost BJB it's certainly not been made official unless I missed it, he's out of contract, that is not the same thing!

Leigh have signed plenty including ...petru ,flower, adam walker ,matty gee, adam sidlow , blake wallace, matty russell, joe mellor, to name a few so yes theyvhave strengthened and i syspect they will be bringing more in

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:04 pm  

Trinityknight wrote:

Leigh have signed plenty including ...petru ,flower, adam walker ,matty gee, adam sidlow , blake wallace, matty russell, joe mellor, to name a few so yes theyvhave strengthened and i syspect they will be bringing more in

None of whom would get into our first 17. They will be competitive but they will go straight back down by a distance in the end.

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:07 pm  

Trinityknight wrote:

Leigh have signed plenty including ...petru ,flower, adam walker ,matty gee, adam sidlow , blake wallace, matty russell, joe mellor, to name a few so yes theyvhave strengthened and i syspect they will be bringing more in

Really, so how many of those would you sign, clutching at straws or what.

I ask again, who are these other players, the pickings are incredibly thin at present. We are struggling here to come up with names, There are probably no more than half a dozen players who've been signed this year so far that I think would add greatly to our team. None of those players are in that list you gave.

Petru had signed for Leigh to play Championship RL, only Flowers could be said to have signed at a point when Leigh might have had a good idea they were in.

Has Leigh got any players who when on form are as good as Miller, Fifita, TJ, BJB, Tupou, Arona, Jowitt etc etc and not least Tanginoa? Leigh would give their eye teeth for those players

You're entitled to your opinion, I just can't see the justification.

Re: Leigh... : Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:37 pm  

I don't see that squad as a threat. The last time Leigh played in SL they employed approaching thuggery tactics and on the whole got away with it.
I think they will have to open the cheque book but who of any real qualitys available.
On the whole its a disappointing choice.