Each club is entitled to five Overseas Players. An additional rule for Super League clubs is that they can have no more than seven Non-Federation trained players. What does Overseas and Non-Federation trained mean?
An Overseas Player is someone who does not hold a European passport or is not a national from a Kolpak Nation (Fiji, Tonga, Samoa & Papua New Guinea). More often than not, they will be from Australia or New Zealand. A Non-Federation trained player is a player who was not trained by an RLEF (Rugby League European Federation) member club for three years before the age of 21. Why can you have five overseas and seven non-federation trained?
This is where there’s a bit of a catch. Every ‘Overseas Player’ also counts as a ‘Non-Federation Trained Player’, other than in very rare cases. If an Australian or New Zealander comes to Super League, the likelihood is they weren’t trained over here either. So they count on both lists. As a result, there are an additional two Non-Fed spots to allow clubs the opportunity to sign more players from overseas, but with some restrictions on who they can actually sign. As an example, Gareth Widdop, despite being English, is classed as a Non-Federation Trained Player, as he was brought up through the junior systems in Australia. He will not take one of Warrington’s ‘Overseas Player’ spots, but will be one of their seven ‘Non-Federation Trained Players’. Another is Luther Burrell. Despite being English, he wasn’t trained by a rugby league club, so, therefore, is Non-Federation trained. But we’ll cover his case more later.
On the basis of a non fed being one not trained under RLEF surely all french players qualify as fed trained as they are part of the RLEF? Is that not the case?
But the point being then, Gigot leaving doesn't leave us a place for an Australian to sign. He only leaves us a place for a Kolpak player to sign. Our born outside UK players this year are Tupou, Miller, Lino, Fifita, Tanginoa, Arona, Tangata Some of them have dual citizenship so hard to decide which is which but unless one of them classes as UK or EU, we have no more space. Looks to me like we can only recruit a UK or French player now. Navarette being a good example.
But the point being then, Gigot leaving doesn't leave us a place for an Australian to sign. He only leaves us a place for a Kolpak player to sign. Our born outside UK players this year are Tupou, Miller, Lino, Fifita, Tanginoa, Arona, Tangata Some of them have dual citizenship so hard to decide which is which but unless one of them classes as UK or EU, we have no more space. Looks to me like we can only recruit a UK or French player now. Navarette being a good example.
Think the non/fed and Quota has now been changed so it is just 7 spots regardless of where the player is from if they are trained outside of Europe, technically all 7 could now be Aussies I think. I may be wrong, but I think this is one of the changes.
Anyway regardless, we are at the full quota of 7, unless that has been increased?
Barba was amazing for the first half of a season. Then, he either got bored or homesick or something, because then he was disinterested. He'd gained enough brownie points to get Man of Steel, but his end of season form was very poor. Very rocks and diamonds. Saints have done far better with the steadiness of Coote (Wembley aside).
But given that Barba isn't allowed to play in the NRL because of his domestic violence, caught on video, any club who wishes to host him needs to take a long, hard look at itself.
Which means he'll sign for Catalans fairly shortly.
On the basis of a non fed being one not trained under RLEF surely all french players qualify as fed trained as they are part of the RLEF? Is that not the case?
I’m not an expert but I would say yes You are right there
Barba was amazing for the first half of a season. Then, he either got bored or homesick or something, because then he was disinterested. He'd gained enough brownie points to get Man of Steel, but his end of season form was very poor. Very rocks and diamonds. Saints have done far better with the steadiness of Coote (Wembley aside).
But given that Barba isn't allowed to play in the NRL because of his domestic violence, caught on video, any club who wishes to host him needs to take a long, hard look at itself.
Which means he'll sign for Catalans fairly shortly.
Think the non/fed and Quota has now been changed so it is just 7 spots regardless of where the player is from if they are trained outside of Europe, technically all 7 could now be Aussies I think. I may be wrong, but I think this is one of the changes.
Anyway regardless, we are at the full quota of 7, unless that has been increased?
I may be wrong now but certainly tangata previously didn’t count on the quota after the Widnes went under
It was ruled he wouldn’t count on the is quota but I’m not sure if there was a time limit to that
Think the non/fed and Quota has now been changed so it is just 7 spots regardless of where the player is from if they are trained outside of Europe, technically all 7 could now be Aussies I think. I may be wrong, but I think this is one of the changes.
Anyway regardless, we are at the full quota of 7, unless that has been increased?
The way I read the above is you can have 5 Aussies or kiwis
Then two non fed trained players (none Aussie or kiwi)
Lino is Samoan / tiny is a cook islander so they could count as non fed as they are kolpak
Another way to look at it is you could have 5 straight Aussies then two kolpak
I’m Sure there is method in the ruling madness some where lol
Barba was amazing for the first half of a season. Then, he either got bored or homesick or something, because then he was disinterested. He'd gained enough brownie points to get Man of Steel, but his end of season form was very poor. Very rocks and diamonds. Saints have done far better with the steadiness of Coote (Wembley aside).
But given that Barba isn't allowed to play in the NRL because of his domestic violence, caught on video, any club who wishes to host him needs to take a long, hard look at itself.
Which means he'll sign for Catalans fairly shortly.