Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:47 pm  

PopTart wrote:

We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?

We need to aim higher.

To a point I agree in that Ward was under very little pressure at London, big fish small pond.

However at the moment, we have sunk back to being a very similar club to London, we shouldn't be but we are.

After a few years playing and competing like a conventional team, we are now back to needing to find the mongrel spirit to survive as SL underdogs. In which case Ward might just fit the bill. He's certainly not tried and tested as Kear was but he showed enough to suggest he can get results from less than promising players.

Who would you suggest? Nobody immediately springs to mind. In a perfect world, JD would be the man but there is more chance of you or me getting the gig to be honest.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:50 pm  

Schunter wrote:

I'd have Kear back in a shot personally, I still think our group of players is pretty good with some decent youth. I think he'd turn us round in 3/4 games

Why would he want to?

He got absolutely lambasted by the turncoats one here. If I were him and after all he had done for the club, I'd tell Wakey fans where to shove it. He's better off at Bradford.

[PopTart]

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:52 pm  

vastman wrote:

To a point I agree in that Ward was under very little pressure at London, big fish small pond.

However at the moment, we have sunk back to being a very similar club to London, we shouldn't be but we are.

After a few years playing and competing like a conventional team, we are now back to needing to find the mongrel spirit to survive as SL underdogs. In which case Ward might just fit the bill. He's certainly not tried and tested as Kear was but he showed enough to suggest he can get results from less than promising players.

Who would you suggest? Nobody immediately springs to mind. In a perfect world, JD would be the man but there is more chance of you or me getting the gig to be honest.

Personally I'd rather go for a Wane or Kear....... Or an up and coming NRL coach who has good recommendations like JD did.
I think it needs someone with either a lot of experience or someone removed from the emotion who just wants to get a result and move on in 2 years.

If we had to go unproven English I'd go for James Ford at York.

[PopTart]

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:54 pm  

Schunter wrote:

I'd have Kear back in a shot personally, I still think our group of players is pretty good with some decent youth. I think he'd turn us round in 3/4 games

Me too. Never wanted him to leave in the first place.
He can have all the Andrew Fifita money for me.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:54 pm  

PopTart wrote:

We want the coach who nearly kept London in Super League to replace the coach who Did keep Wakefield in Super League?

We need to aim higher.

I actually admire your attempt to defend the indefensible and carrying on with the line who is better then Chester. The bar is set fairly low to be better than Chester so the way to look at it is who would be worse than Chester because this is a much smaller group.
I note your usual fellow Chester defenders BG and WWW and suspiciously absent leaving you a loan voice in the wind of despair.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:08 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

I actually admire your attempt to defend the indefensible and carrying on with the line who is better then Chester. The bar is set fairly low to be better than Chester so the way to look at it is who would be worse than Chester because this is a much smaller group.
I note your usual fellow Chester defenders BG and WWW and suspiciously absent leaving you a loan voice in the wind of despair.

Why do you make it all personal?

It's not my job to defend PT but where exactly is he a Chester defender. All he's done is point out that there are other factors involved and alternative ways to look at it.

He's said on at least three posts that he thinks it's probably time Chester went or similar.

I most certainly do not admire the way you manipulate people's posts to further your own agenda.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:09 pm  

vastman wrote:

Why would he want to?

He got absolutely lambasted by the turncoats one here. If I were him and after all he had done for the club, I'd tell Wakey fans where to shove it. He's better off at Bradford.

There may well have been some on here but from memory overall he left on a reasonable note didnt he? With a win over Bradford when we some how still didn't finish bottom despite horrendous financial issues? Most fans I know still hold him in reasonable regard if not higher like myself. He was far from perfect but he was good at getting the best out of players and had a good eye for a player too.
As you allude to though the idea of coming back may not appeal, but usually brass talks if nowt else

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:38 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Personally I'd rather go for a Wane or Kear....... Or an up and coming NRL coach who has good recommendations like JD did.
I think it needs someone with either a lot of experience or someone removed from the emotion who just wants to get a result and move on in 2 years.

If we had to go unproven English I'd go for James Ford at York.

So you don't want Ward, a guy who got London promoted against all odds aganst megabucks Toronto, almost kept them up with the smallest budget in the league and has been an assistant to Wayne Bennett for Great Britain. But you'd be happy with James Ford, a promising coach yes but one who has never coached in the top division in any capacity, in fact has never even dealt with fulltime players before and whose team is currently in the bottom half of the championship despite having one of the bigger spending budgets and many well known players. Right OK then.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:45 pm  

vastman wrote:

Why would he want to?

He got absolutely lambasted by the turncoats one here. If I were him and after all he had done for the club, I'd tell Wakey fans where to shove it. He's better off at Bradford.

Well that's not how I remember things. My recollection is that a bitterness and a bit of a falling out developed when Kear was approached by Catslan but the club would not allow it without compensation. From that point on things were not the same and bad feelings started to build and fester. But you are correct he left in a bitter way and got some stick.

But he did return after all that. The second time he left was with a thank you from the club and I honestly dont remember one bad word from anyone on the second occasion. Could be wrong but that's what he recall.

Re: Chester couldn't motivate a FART : Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:54 pm  

vastman wrote:

To a point I agree in that Ward was under very little pressure at London, big fish small pond.

However at the moment, we have sunk back to being a very similar club to London, we shouldn't be but we are.

After a few years playing and competing like a conventional team, we are now back to needing to find the mongrel spirit to survive as SL underdogs. In which case Ward might just fit the bill. He's certainly not tried and tested as Kear was but he showed enough to suggest he can get results from less than promising players.

Who would you suggest? Nobody immediately springs to mind. In a perfect world, JD would be the man but there is more chance of you or me getting the gig to be honest.

There's been some pretty pointless discussions on here, but this one really is the most ridiculous?!! Unless of course his sacking/resignation is imminent...........?