Re: Leigh win : Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:59 pm  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

5 Pauli Pauli shoulder charges?

A bit difficult seeing as he wasn't even in the 17......

Re: Leigh win : Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:13 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

A bit difficult seeing as he wasn't even the 17......

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:34 am  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

If they did a couple of Covid-swerves re Catalans, Hull KR and Saints, they could go after us and Huddersfield and get 3 wins out of 19. If we played our remaining games and lost them all, we'd have 5 wins out of 22. That would still put us above them,

Just swerve Catalans and Saints and beat us, Huddersfield and Hull KR, it would be 4 wins out of 20. 20%. That would still be good enough for us.

They only way they can stay up is by winning 4 more games but play one less game, because of points difference.

The season could yet have a few more twists and turns as far as relegation goes...

Leigh's remaining scheduled fixtures are:
St Helens A
Catalans A
Hull KR (Magic)
Trinity H
Huddersfield A

They then have 3 outstanding postponed games:
Hull FC A
Warrington H
Castleford H

Wakefield's fixtures are:
Hull KR A
Leeds H
Huddersfield (Magic)
Leigh A
Hull FC H

plus the postponed game
Salford H

We're currently 5/19 = 26.32%
worst case scenario we lose all the remaining scheduled fixtures....
5/24 = 20.83%

Leigh are currently 1/17 =5.88%
If Leigh only play their current scheduled fixtures they'll need to win at least 4 of them to give 5/22 = 22.73%

Salford should also not be counted out of the mix as yet (currently 5/17 =29.41%)
Salford scheduled fixtures:
Catalans H
Hull FC H
Castleford (Magic)
Warrington A
St Helens H

plus postponed games:
Hull FC A
Hull KR H
Wakefield H

If they lose all their scheduled fixtures (a tough run-in) They'd be 5/22 = 22.73% like Leigh if they won 4/5, but likely better points difference ratio having conceded 200 points fewer than Leigh.

Then you're into the realms of jiggery-pokery.
The most likely outcome is that nothing changes and Leigh are relegated, beating St Helens or Catalans away looks unlikely, but if they could win one and postpone the other, they could stay up on 5/21 = 23.81%

What could be interesting is if Wakefield or Salford need one more win to ensure safety. Could they re-arrange their fixture for during the play-offs? If it's meaningless to one team but SL safety to the other, it could be an fascinating game. One fielding their first team and the other letting all the youngsters have a go. I'm sure Derek would be happy with that.

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:34 pm  

coco the fullback wrote:

The season could yet have a few more twists and turns as far as relegation goes...

Leigh's remaining scheduled fixtures are:
St Helens A
Catalans A
Hull KR (Magic)
Trinity H
Huddersfield A

They then have 3 outstanding postponed games:
Hull FC A
Warrington H
Castleford H

Wakefield's fixtures are:
Hull KR A
Leeds H
Huddersfield (Magic)
Leigh A
Hull FC H

plus the postponed game
Salford H

We're currently 5/19 = 26.32%
worst case scenario we lose all the remaining scheduled fixtures....
5/24 = 20.83%

Leigh are currently 1/17 =5.88%
If Leigh only play their current scheduled fixtures they'll need to win at least 4 of them to give 5/22 = 22.73%

Salford should also not be counted out of the mix as yet (currently 5/17 =29.41%)
Salford scheduled fixtures:
Catalans H
Hull FC H
Castleford (Magic)
Warrington A
St Helens H

plus postponed games:
Hull FC A
Hull KR H
Wakefield H

Is that right? The tables have Leigh as having played 17 games, which would leave 6, including magic. You have them as having 8 left. Although, to be honest, I don't know which way is up with fixtures this season, other than it's all a mess.

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:37 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Is that right? The tables have Leigh as having played 17 games, which would leave 6, including magic. You have them as having 8 left. Although, to be honest, I don't know which way is up with fixtures this season, other than it's all a mess.

You are right that Leigh have played 17.

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 12:46 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

Is that right? The tables have Leigh as having played 17 games, which would leave 6, including magic. You have them as having 8 left. Although, to be honest, I don't know which way is up with fixtures this season, other than it's all a mess.

Yes it's right they have 8 games left we have 6

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:23 pm  

The postponed games are played in the order first to last.

[PopTart]

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:03 pm  

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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The postponed games are played in the order first to last.

Where have you seen that?

It doesn't seem possible if one team has post phoned 3 on the trot. Each other team will have to wait to catch up. When they could have been playing someone else.

I'd have thought it was just down to the clubs to organise each game.

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:32 pm  

PopTart wrote:

[imgur][/imgur]Where have you seen that?

It doesn't seem possible if one team has post phoned 3 on the trot. Each other team will have to wait to catch up. When they could have been playing someone else.

I'd have thought it was just down to the clubs to organise each game.

He is right it was stated they must be played in order of postponement

Re: Leigh win : Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:46 pm  

coco the fullback wrote:

The season could yet have a few more twists and turns as far as relegation goes...

Leigh's remaining scheduled fixtures are:
St Helens A
Catalans A
Hull KR (Magic)
Trinity H
Huddersfield A

They then have 3 outstanding postponed games:
Hull FC A
Warrington H
Castleford H

Wakefield's fixtures are:
Hull KR A
Leeds H
Huddersfield (Magic)
Leigh A
Hull FC H

plus the postponed game
Salford H

We're currently 5/19 = 26.32%
worst case scenario we lose all the remaining scheduled fixtures....
5/24 = 20.83%

Leigh are currently 1/17 =5.88%
If Leigh only play their current scheduled fixtures they'll need to win at least 4 of them to give 5/22 = 22.73%

Salford should also not be counted out of the mix as yet (currently 5/17 =29.41%)
Salford scheduled fixtures:
Catalans H
Hull FC H
Castleford (Magic)
Warrington A
St Helens H

plus postponed games:
Hull FC A
Hull KR H
Wakefield H

If they lose all their scheduled fixtures (a tough run-in) They'd be 5/22 = 22.73% like Leigh if they won 4/5, but likely better points difference ratio having conceded 200 points fewer than Leigh.

Then you're into the realms of jiggery-pokery.
The most likely outcome is that nothing changes and Leigh are relegated, beating St Helens or Catalans away looks unlikely, but if they could win one and postpone the other, they could stay up on 5/21 = 23.81%

What could be interesting is if Wakefield or Salford need one more win to ensure safety. Could they re-arrange their fixture for during the play-offs? If it's meaningless to one team but SL safety to the other, it could be an fascinating game. One fielding their first team and the other letting all the youngsters have a go. I'm sure Derek would be happy with that.

Regarding postponed fixtures, it would be ridiculous if clubs were playing postponed games during the play offs as the play off positions are decided when the regular fixtures are completed.
In fact, coincidence or not, 4 of the current top 6 are the clubs that have completed fewest games Saints, Wire and the 2 Hull clubs - maybe that's why they are doing a little better than the clubs who have bust a gut to play their games ?
Seriously though, none of these clubs are going to play "catch up" fixtures either just before or during the play offs and this being the case, it would be wrong for any of the lower placed clubs to be able to re arrange a game to save them from relegation.
There has to be a pre decided cut off point for regular games to be completed and then use the % based league position.
This could be equally or maybe more critical in The Championship, where top placed Toulouse has only played their away fixtures, plus an odd 24 -0 walkover.