Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:26 am  

I want Hampshire to stay but we do seem to be in the situation again (if the rumours are true) that he wants more than the ciub think he is worth.
I don't know and those negotiations are not my business anyway.
Rocky is an enigma. I personally don't see him as starting FB or half back - form of others may change that of course, BUT his utility quality is priceless.
I hope it gets sorted and he stays.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:03 am  

1315trinity wrote:

I want Hampshire to stay but we do seem to be in the situation again (if the rumours are true) that he wants more than the ciub think he is worth.
I don't know and those negotiations are not my business anyway.
Rocky is an enigma. I personally don't see him as starting FB or half back - form of others may change that of course, BUT his utility quality is priceless.
I hope it gets sorted and he stays.

Yup that’s how I see it.

This of course may have nothing to do with Hampshire, maybe WP has different ideas, although he didn’t seem shy in playing the lad.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:24 am  

Rocky must be one of the most regular good performers in the team. Think he covered 5 positions and scored from all but one.
Don't think CC helped in his development tbh but he should in my view be given an opportunity for the next couple of seasons.
Key players spent quite a few matches on the side lines and cover should be a priority.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:13 pm  

As a utility player, he is worth less than the first choice in whatever position he can fill in for, which is probably the part that is frustrating for him. I imagine he sees himself as the best half-back or the best full back at the club and should be first choice, and getting a first choice salary. Those in the know, the coaches, seem to think otherwise.

The hard part for him must be the fact that he is only just not as good as the first choice, almost on a par.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:33 pm  

I’m sure I will get shot down in flames but I’m going to stick my neck out and say that I hope we don’t offer him a deal. Not a criticism of him but he clearly would be a utility player covering FB, both half back positions and outside backs at a push. However, like it or not we have that player now in Gaskell. If I’m honest Rocky frustrates me as a player. He’s ok at FB but nowhere near Jowett and as a half back I feel he runs the other backs out of the game too often.

Obviously I don’t know for sure but I felt that when the CEO said at one of the online forums that he had made a mistake signing a player last year and succumbed to pressure from the fans, I felt he was talking about Ryan. So could well be wrong but I’d be surprised if we signed him. No idea as to whether we’ve offered him anything but it seems like the repeat from last year where we were all wondering if he was staying or going. So IMO it suggests we haven’t offered or he thinks he’s worth more.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:50 pm  

I doubt it was Hampshire because he had a two year contract.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:13 pm  

AMI wrote:

I’m sure I will get shot down in flames but I’m going to stick my neck out and say that I hope we don’t offer him a deal. Not a criticism of him but he clearly would be a utility player covering FB, both half back positions and outside backs at a push. However, like it or not we have that player now in Gaskell. If I’m honest Rocky frustrates me as a player. He’s ok at FB but nowhere near Jowett and as a half back I feel he runs the other backs out of the game too often.

Obviously I don’t know for sure but I felt that when the CEO said at one of the online forums that he had made a mistake signing a player last year and succumbed to pressure from the fans, I felt he was talking about Ryan. So could well be wrong but I’d be surprised if we signed him. No idea as to whether we’ve offered him anything but it seems like the repeat from last year where we were all wondering if he was staying or going. So IMO it suggests we haven’t offered or he thinks he’s worth more.

Not sure who it was but it wasn’t Hampshire.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:33 pm  

AMI wrote:

I’m sure I will get shot down in flames but I’m going to stick my neck out and say that I hope we don’t offer him a deal. Not a criticism of him but he clearly would be a utility player covering FB, both half back positions and outside backs at a push. However, like it or not we have that player now in Gaskell. If I’m honest Rocky frustrates me as a player. He’s ok at FB but nowhere near Jowett and as a half back I feel he runs the other backs out of the game too often.

Obviously I don’t know for sure but I felt that when the CEO said at one of the online forums that he had made a mistake signing a player last year and succumbed to pressure from the fans, I felt he was talking about Ryan. So could well be wrong but I’d be surprised if we signed him. No idea as to whether we’ve offered him anything but it seems like the repeat from last year where we were all wondering if he was staying or going. So IMO it suggests we haven’t offered or he thinks he’s worth more.

I agree

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:49 pm  

musson wrote:

Really hope Rocky stays

Key is to find him his permanent position
I don’t know him but I imagine he feels he deserves permanent starting position

Which he absolutely does

He’d get the number one shirt for me

As the roles of rugby league "positions" become more and more interchangeable, the need for RH to have a permanent position seems to be less important. Every club needs a utility player and I think Rocky suits that title more than anyone else.

Re: Whats happening with Rocky : Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:58 pm  

Redscat wrote:

As the roles of rugby league "positions" become more and more interchangeable, the need for RH to have a permanent position seems to be less important. Every club needs a utility player and I think Rocky suits that title more than anyone else.

I 100% agree with you re the value of a utility

However as some one that played the game I assure you no player grows up wanting to be a utility player

I don’t know Rocky but I’ve watched the game over 30 years and he strikes me as the sort of player that needs a regular spot (and deserves one) I also think he would benefit himself and the team for having a regular position (that’s just logical)