Re: Good on ya Tom : Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:54 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

Give me Starmer over this clown every day of the week.

Absolute joke of a leader is Starmer.

Boris the Bull$#itter was voted in to sort Brexit if anyone thinks he would be anything else must be deluded. He has no grip and no shame he will be out no confidence pretty soon I would think.

As for the opposition see above the Starmer and his front bench dearie me what a circus.

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:07 pm  

Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist
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Re: Good on ya Tom : Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:52 pm  

alegend wrote:

Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist
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That is the woman feared by Vastman so it could never happen. If I was him I would be more worried by Liz Truss who appears to believe we are still feared around the world.

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:03 pm  

alegend wrote: Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist . Its actually about 11k more than the next European country (Italy). And (although nothing to be proud of) a dozen or so European countries with a higher death rate (per million of population) than UK. https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

alegend wrote: Think it's time Labour were giving a chance what we got to lose .Up in this part of the England ( thought it was the North but according to Boris that is Birmingham) we have been left to defend for our self Boris was pointing out that death in Europe was increasing but they are still 67 thousand more deaths in this country than any country in Europe .I would like to see the women in charge of Labour who said the government was scum .Saw her in action at M P Questions time, when Starmer had covid and she said it as it was and came out way on top .If London did not have 35% of the new covid there would have not been interested in plan B . There just interested in money, money , and do not give o monkey about the people ,people that die ,over run hospitals, And people up in this part of the Country do not exist . Its actually about 11k more than the next European country (Italy). And (although nothing to be proud of) a dozen or so European countries with a higher death rate (per million of population) than UK. https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/

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Re: Good on ya Tom : Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:50 am  

It's not an easy thing to compare across countries.
They don't necessarily measure the same way which could go for or against our numbers but I'd say its more important now to look at new cases and new deaths.
Our number has been higher for a long time but European countries are suddenly getting a surge where we are trying to control it.
Time will tell I guess.

But ultimately, it isn't down to Boris. If people wash their hands, socially distance and wear a mask where its busy There'll be less cases.
Doesn't matter to me if they had a party. Depending on what happened I'd make a couple lose their jobs but it won't change whether I socially distance or not.

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:46 am  

Unprecedented times I’m afraid and doesn’t matter which party is in power as they all PEA in the same pot ,so we’d still be in this predicament whoever was in charge ,and who knows it might have been worse .Whoever gets in power they fill their boots until us the voters get fed up and elect another bunch of crooks who then go on to fill their boots, and so on and so on .

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:23 am  

Willzay wrote:

Oh aye he’s definitely had a tough time.

You seriously don’t think a pandemic is a bit out of the ordinary then, take off the blinkers.

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:31 am  

Redscat wrote:

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Tut, Tut!!!

Just when I was beginning to like and respect you, vasty, you go and say a thing like that. Ah well! One day you'll see.
Keep it up Tom!!!

Redcat you know I’m right.

Stammer could be a decent PM. There is some serious talent in the Labour Party. They could govern well.

But they can’t because they will be undermined at every level by the hard left and general loons.

Labour must be the only major political party in the Western world that specialises in keeping one of the most right wing parties in office.

If you’d just drop all the class cr*p and take the centre ground you’d be in power forever. Blair may have been a sleaze bag but at least he understood that.

You’d be surprised just how much I’d like to vote Labour but my brain keeps getting in the way.

You need people like me to win, it’s a fact. Not the undecided morons but those who vote using common sense and not emotions.

You know I’m right.

However back to the point, you know as well as I do that with nearly three years left on the clock the only people who can remove Boris are the Conservative party. So now is the time to drop party politics and try to convince them politely to do so.

Labour are currently powerless when confronted with the Tory majority. It’s how our system works, Labour could have changed that but didn’t.

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:43 am  

TURFEDOUT wrote: Its actually about 11k more than the next European country (Italy). And (although nothing to be proud of) a dozen or so European countries with a higher death rate (per million of population) than UK. https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/ Oh come on those figures are meaningless as they are calculated by the nations own systems, all of which vary dramatically in what’s noted as a Covid death. If the stats were all say UN based they would have some meaning. How Germany is getting away with bare faced lies is beyond me. Are you really willing to believe that a virus respects borders and is somehow four times less lethal in Germany than Belgium. These stats are a case of people believing what they want to believe if it suits their political bias. The real scandal in the U.K. is not the death rate which IMO is no better or worse than the rest but the vast millions made by Tory supporters abusing PP contracts.

TURFEDOUT wrote: Its actually about 11k more than the next European country (Italy). And (although nothing to be proud of) a dozen or so European countries with a higher death rate (per million of population) than UK. https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/ Oh come on those figures are meaningless as they are calculated by the nations own systems, all of which vary dramatically in what’s noted as a Covid death. If the stats were all say UN based they would have some meaning. How Germany is getting away with bare faced lies is beyond me. Are you really willing to believe that a virus respects borders and is somehow four times less lethal in Germany than Belgium. These stats are a case of people believing what they want to believe if it suits their political bias. The real scandal in the U.K. is not the death rate which IMO is no better or worse than the rest but the vast millions made by Tory supporters abusing PP contracts.

Re: Good on ya Tom : Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:44 am  

Ester McVey would do for me.