Re: Jacob staying or going : Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:41 pm  

jonh wrote:

A number of players are on inflated contracts and we need to get them back to a position where there is status-quo within the club regards a wage structure.

Miller is on a big wage probably more than he brings to the table and doesn’t want to drop from that so is rightly for him looking elsewhere.

Wakefield have to start making some tough decisions and do what is right for the club. If he wants more than we believe he is worth then he leaves and we look for a replacement.

We have been here before handing out contracts which simply do not provide value for money and we need to phase them out. As contracts wind down we have an opportunity to do that, but the key is obviously finding players to replace them that strengthen us across the park.

I do feel that investing in the academy and pathway to first team is the way forward medium to long term. I think the difficulty is the short term 1-3 years. As I said before though I can see us being much more attractive when the developments are complete.

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:53 am  

I fear players contracts will be irrelivent as getting relegated will probably most will leave anyway.should we stay up i still think a clear out is needed too many players on good money (i assume)who if where honest dont produce on a regular basis which results show.

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:30 am  

To many players on good money, we don't sighn players who should be any position to demand good money.
Trinity are and have been for some time the scrag end of sighning players and if there's any mofe than 4 /5players on SL money we deserve all we get.
If we do get relegated the club will be left with a number of over rated players who will in all honesty have to see out their contracts because no other club will want them.

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:55 am  

lampyboy wrote:

To many players on good money, we don't sighn players who should be any position to demand good money.
Trinity are and have been for some time the scrag end of sighning players and if there's any mofe than 4 /5players on SL money we deserve all we get.
If we do get relegated the club will be left with a number of over rated players who will in all honesty have to see out their contracts because no other club will want them.

IF we are relegated then it has been mentioned that players can leave because their contracts are only for SL rugby. Does it not work both ways i.e. the club can release players because it is no longer a SL club?
If not, it should, because it's down to some of those players that we're in this predicament.
If some of the players had played with heart in at least 4 games we should have won this season, things would be different, and it seems harsh that if we went down they would have to come with us!

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:16 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.

I’m not convinced on TJ yet. It could be a case that his groin injury has de-railed a potential move. Also Yaha resigned for Catalans after TJ’s injury. Some teams willing to take a punt on him may not now be as keen. This may put us back in the driving seat for his signing. It’s all guesswork at the moment until something officials announced. TJ is my favourite player but if he goes I do rate Murphy too. It’s just a matter of waiting till somethings announced.

In all honesty, I wouldn't be too concerned if he went really.

Yes, he is, in his day, a potential match winner. However, sadly his injury record is a concern, and he's only thst potential match winner when he's on the field.

I would imagine if we did try to keep him, he'd provably end up being one of our top earners.

Sadly, I think he averages something like 17 games a season. For me, with a club with our finances, you need your top earners yo be playing more games.

I'd rather be fighting hard to keep Batch, and be looking to replace Miller with a quality half back, maybe two if Lino goes as well

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:24 am  

Miller has already signed for Castleford 100% and also other players have signed pre contract agreements elsewhere,the club are as expected not saying this as it would make them look even worse than we do now

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Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:29 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.

Never said they are staying. Just that you don't know.

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:36 am  

PopTart wrote:

Never said they are staying. Just that you don't know.

The pimp is a classic example of someone who writes the narrative to suit himself. If it’s positive news then basically it’s all part of the clubs huge lie. If it’s negative it’s immediately credible no matter how dubious the source.

Hence when things go well he never posts or posts disparaging comments. If it’s negative he posts quicker than a whippet on heat.

Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:18 am  

I'm sure he brings more to the team than we perhaps see on the pitch, however Miller has not been a world beater for us. Maybe he'll go well with a different set of players around him.

I hope he stays, but I won't be crying if he goes.

He's not the Messiah.

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Re: Jacob staying or going : Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:24 am  

dboy wrote:

I'm sure he brings more to the team than we perhaps see on the pitch, however Miller has not been a world beater for us. Maybe he'll go well with a different set of players around him.

I hope he stays, but I won't be crying if he goes.

He's not the Messiah.

He's not the messiah, but he's decent and we can't afford to replace him with the messiah either. Probably not even Brian!

For me the best way to go is to let TJ go, let Miller go if he really wants to join our rivals and use that money to replace Miller with someone good and keep Fifita and Batch.