Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:16 pm  

Looking at leeds squad they aint winning sturday makes you wonder why thay have loaned so many out too

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:29 pm  

He needs game time so if he gets a chance at Leeds then it will be great development for him. He will also experience better facilities. Hopefully he is still in the clubs long term plans as he showed up well when he's played.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:29 pm  

marc271841 wrote:

Is it not a concern that this could be a mini trial ahead of a permanent move? I'm harsh and I accept I am. But I have seen nothing from Butler to warrant selection over this lad. If Leeds snap him up and he becomes a top player we could live to regret this one

People are acting like Aydin is the answer to all our problems. He is a young lad who in my opinion hasn’t broken any pots. I’m fact in his last game vs Wire he was a liability in defence allowing a opposition forwards to step him leaving a huge gap.

Aydin has a lot to prove yet imo and I’m not convinced he’s yet good enough. Of course, as a young Wakefield player i do hope that he does develop into a good SL player whether that be us or someone else.

I think this works in the clubs favour saving a bit of money and also not standing in the way of an opportunity for Aydin.

As it stands we have Fifita, Bowden, Arona, Whitbread who are all ahead of him.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:39 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

People are acting like Aydin is the answer to all our problems. He is a young lad who in my opinion hasn’t broken any pots. I’m fact in his last game vs Wire he was a liability in defence allowing a opposition forwards to step him leaving a huge gap.

Aydin has a lot to prove yet imo and I’m not convinced he’s yet good enough. Of course, as a young Wakefield player i do hope that he does develop into a good SL player whether that be us or someone else.

I think this works in the clubs favour saving a bit of money and also not standing in the way of an opportunity for Aydin.

As it stands we have Fifita, Bowden, Arona, Whitbread who are all ahead of him.

No mention of Butler here which is the point I made. If the lad is aggrieved at a lack of game time then you can understand it to some degree.

I'm not saying he's a world class talent and has already established himself. But by the same token he's never going to get there by not playing.

I played prop myself and I happen to like what I see with this lad. If he comes back all good. If he comes back to haunt us we might live to regret it.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:55 pm  

marc271841 wrote:

No mention of Butler here which is the point I made. If the lad is aggrieved at a lack of game time then you can understand it to some degree.

I'm not saying he's a world class talent and has already established himself. But by the same token he's never going to get there by not playing.

I played prop myself and I happen to like what I see with this lad. If he comes back all good. If he comes back to haunt us we might live to regret it.

Butler has been okay. He has been solid nothing more. It’s clear that Butler needs to work on his fitness and get on the weights but I think the time to judge him will be after a full pre season or a string of games. I don’t see what he has to do with Aydin being allowed to go on loan though.

Aydin I would put about on par with Butler as 5/6th choice props presently. The one thing I do like about Aydin is his aggressive and niggly streak he has.

I wouldn’t read too much into this loan. Leeds are short of props, we have an excess few available. It also works in our interest that Leeds have a stronger line up vs Toulouse available.

Personally I’m 50/50 on Aydin st this point. Im much more excited about seeing Eseh develop.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:23 pm  

marc271841 wrote:

Is it not a concern that this could be a mini trial ahead of a permanent move? I'm harsh and I accept I am. But I have seen nothing from Butler to warrant selection over this lad. If Leeds snap him up and he becomes a top player we could live to regret this one

No. If they want him they would just take him when his contrac was up.

He’s a decent prospect but I doubt he’s in the must have category.

It’s just a loan, and unless he puts in a Stella showing he will be back in two weeks time.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:38 pm  

vastman wrote:

No. If they want him they would just take him when his contrac was up.

He’s a decent prospect but I doubt he’s in the must have category.

It’s just a loan, and unless he puts in a Stella showing he will be back in two weeks time.

That's the point though isn't it. If he puts a stella showing in over the next 2 weeks it may well lead to Leeds taking him off our hands at the end of his contract. We've seen ourselves what Hall has done when he actually gets game time.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:47 pm  

Thanks for the replies. Interesting to see how it goes.

I’m not expecting us to be able to do you any favours on Saturday…..not only do we have no props but Leeming still out and Austin and now Sezer out as well so we have nothing at HB either

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:11 pm  

marc271841 wrote:

That's the point though isn't it. If he puts a stella showing in over the next 2 weeks it may well lead to Leeds taking him off our hands at the end of his contract. We've seen ourselves what Hall has done when he actually gets game time.

Oh come on, seriously. Then we'd better not loan any players out had we.

He's available at the end of his term full stop. We either make a deal or he goes elsewhere, I seriously doubt a two week cover spell will make a difference and if it does so be it. Not like we haven't benefited in the past. The paranoia of Trinity fans is incredible at times.

Re: Aydin on loan : Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:16 pm  

cheekydiddles wrote:

Thanks for the replies. Interesting to see how it goes.

I’m not expecting us to be able to do you any favours on Saturday…..not only do we have no props but Leeming still out and Austin and now Sezer out as well so we have nothing at HB either

And yet the bookies still have Leeds as pretty strong favourites. Who do they expect to pull the strings?