Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:11 am  

PopTart wrote:

It's never the winger on an overlap.
From behind the post everyone was pointing to say we lined up incorrectly. They just passes until they hit the last man. Nothing Kershaw could do.

I agree. I said the same from northstand. You could see before the ball got to Kershaw we were going to be a man short. I’m not sure whether it’s the the SR, Centre or Lino who aren’t pushing out quick enough.

The one major change was Tanginoa for Batchelor. I though Batchelors effort in right edge defence was excellent last week with him sliding effectively and I can’t think why after our best performance of the season in defence why he’d change that.

Poching effectively took our best defensive performance of the year and moved Batchelor to the middle and Crowther to the bench. Changing 2 positions from the starting 13 was unnecessary in my opinion.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:16 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

I agree. I said the same from northstand. You could see before the ball got to Kershaw we were going to be a man short. I’m not sure whether it’s the the SR, Centre or Lino who aren’t pushing out quick enough.

The one major change was Tanginoa for Batchelor. I though Batchelors effort in defence was excellent last week with him sliding effectively and I can’t think why after our best performance of the season in defence why he’d change that.

Poching effectively took our best defensive performance of the year and moved Batchelor to the middle and Crowther to the bench. Changing 2 positions from the starting 13 was unnecessary in my opinion.

Despite what some in the North stand try and sing, Kelepi aint a second rower.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:29 am  

phe13 wrote:

Despite what some in the North stand try and sing, Kelepi aint a second rower.

I think he’s a left second rower (where he was immense after he signed for us) what we tried to turn into a prop and then we have tried to swap him to right second row. There’s been an element of mismanagement of Kalepi over last 2 years but presently I would be starting Batchelor at right second row. Kalepi should be on bench as an impact plsyer imo.

Batchelor has always been an edge second row on the right and for some reason this year the coaches have in in their heads that he’s suddenly become a middle. Batch does a good job in the middle but he’s a much better player in the right second row. It’s a little frustrating.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:36 am  

PopTart wrote:

It's never the winger on an overlap.
From behind the post everyone was pointing to say we lined up incorrectly. They just passes until they hit the last man. Nothing Kershaw could do.

Definitely correct, i was in the North stand and i could see it was going to be a try long before the ball was moved out towards Kershaw.

However just a point, last week many were praising Jamie Shaul for his organising ability. I saw very little of that yesterday ,our line defence was all over the place . He also set the tone of the game by dropping his first high ball catch. He also dropped a couple at Cas. Ok he has good touches in attack but i am not sure he is an improvement on Max.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:55 am  

PopTart wrote:

It's never the winger on an overlap.
From behind the post everyone was pointing to say we lined up incorrectly. They just passes until they hit the last man. Nothing Kershaw could do.

He was left high and dry twice tbh.....

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:57 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

I think he’s a left second rower (where he was immense after he signed for us) what we tried to turn into a prop and then we have tried to swap him to right second row. There’s been an element of mismanagement of Kalepi over last 2 years but presently I would be starting Batchelor at right second row. Kalepi should be on bench as an impact plsyer imo.

Batchelor has always been an edge second row on the right and for some reason this year the coaches have in in their heads that he’s suddenly become a middle. Batch does a good job in the middle but he’s a much better player in the right second row. It’s a little frustrating.

Yep.
If it ain't broke why fix it?

[PopTart]

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:58 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Definitely correct, i was in the North stand and i could see it was going to be a try long before the ball was moved out towards Kershaw.

However just a point, last week many were praising Jamie Shaul for his organising ability. I saw very little of that yesterday ,our line defence was all over the place . He also set the tone of the game by dropping his first high ball catch. He also dropped a couple at Cas. Ok he has good touches in attack but i am not sure he is an improvement on Max.

I was South end.
The problem with the try where we numbered incorrectly was that Shaul went in to loose forward. Not sure why, or who came out to make the tackles but it didn't work.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:55 am  

It was batted back by us and his feet were in the air when he batted it back. The only issue is whether his left foot was on the line or beyond when he leapt.

It is very hard for the ref there. How many times has something looked dead cert out but a slo-mo replay shows otherwise. The ref has an in-goal ref to help, so I presume that ref was looking very carefully at his feet.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:18 am  

It could be said that the final try was questionable but without video coverage understandable but having seen the highlights we were lucky when their player slipped when he looked a certain scorer so I guess you win some you lose some.

Re: Catalan last try : Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:05 pm  

Just had a look at highlights on Sky sports rugby league page, guess what, there is a picture with a Warrington and a Castleford player above a caption “Wakefield trinity v Catalans” the whole sport is a shambles.