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Re: We could... : Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:56 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

To be fair to Mopsey and all the others who were saying it, Chester was rubbish!

He benefited from a perfect storm early on, Brian Smiths recruitment and strict regime set it up nicely for a more lackadaisical Chester to reap the rewards. He also benefited from a number of other clubs having very poor seasons, rebuilding & coaches that didn’t work like Cunningham at Sts. Sts, Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, Catalan, Huddersfield all went through a couple of seasons of poor form for one or more reasons, that allowed the likes of us, Cas & Salford to threaten the top 6. Kear then shored up the Chester regime for a season but once he left there was a speedy decline and deterioration.

So unlike Willie Poching who has a very decent winning % stretching back to late last season, Chester had plenty of time to prove to everyone (almost) how utterly awful he was as a coach.

He did sign David Fifita though

Re: We could... : Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:36 pm  

PopTart wrote:

You didn't ask. You were adamant as were a lot of others.
I think I've been pretty steady in my views.
I said I like Poching and thought he could turn it around. I'd go as far as to say not many coaches can do what he's done. Plenty have failed.

There is no 10 games for me. He gets a full season.
Nearly all of his signings so far have looked good to me and even Butler is starting to look the part.
I look forward to what he can do in the recruitment this year even though he has the limitations all coaches have at Belle Vue.

"Butler is starting to look the part". What? Because he made three half decent carries last night? Give me strength. Fickle as owt this. Hope he comes good but it's a bit early to be coming out with that.

Re: We could... : Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:46 pm  

Adam_Harrison9 wrote:

"Butler is starting to look the part". What? Because he made three half decent carries last night? Give me strength. Fickle as owt this. Hope he comes good but it's a bit early to be coming out with that.

Tbf not seen much of him, how many games has he played for us, like 4/5. Tbf he was solid against Hull Kr, made a better impact than Aydin who I thought was poor last night. Be interesting and good to see if Butler can recapture the form that got him in the knights team.

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Re: We could... : Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:51 pm  

Adam_Harrison9 wrote:

"Butler is starting to look the part". What? Because he made three half decent carries last night? Give me strength. Fickle as owt this. Hope he comes good but it's a bit early to be coming out with that.

So that's why I said 'nearly all the signings' and 'starting to look'
I haven't said he's good.
I am definitely not fickle.

Re: We could... : Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:04 am  

Before the start of any season I think 20 points is a base target return… anything above that starts to move us towards the playoffs…

If we can make 20 points that will be a good finish

Re: We could... : Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:44 am  

I think Saints getting there bottoms kicked by Wigan yesterday suggests that we will face a stronger side than expected. It was good though.

Re: We could... : Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:44 am  

The Avenger wrote:

To be fair to Mopsey and all the others who were saying it, Chester was rubbish!

He benefited from a perfect storm early on, Brian Smiths recruitment and strict regime set it up nicely for a more lackadaisical Chester to reap the rewards. He also benefited from a number of other clubs having very poor seasons, rebuilding & coaches that didn’t work like Cunningham at Sts. Sts, Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, Catalan, Huddersfield all went through a couple of seasons of poor form for one or more reasons, that allowed the likes of us, Cas & Salford to threaten the top 6. Kear then shored up the Chester regime for a season but once he left there was a speedy decline and deterioration.

So unlike Willie Poching who has a very decent winning % stretching back to late last season, Chester had plenty of time to prove to everyone (almost) how utterly awful he was as a coach.

Spot on ,couldn’t have said it any better myself

Re: We could... : Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:47 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

I think Saints getting there bottoms kicked by Wigan yesterday suggests that we will face a stronger side than expected. It was good though.

Wigan really beat them up , would think they will be minus Walmsley and Hurrell as both looked like they picked up injuries to me.

Re: We could... : Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:36 am  

Kettykat wrote:

Wigan really beat them up , would think they will be minus Walmsley and Hurrell as both looked like they picked up injuries to me.

Yep, it was good to see!
I still think they will still rest a few as they can still win the hubcap next weekend v toulouse.

Re: We could... : Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:37 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

Yep, it was good to see!
I still think they will still rest a few as they can still win the hubcap next weekend v toulouse.

The team will be a hybrid team I'd imagine. There were 8 players who didn't play in either the first team or senior academy game.

Hill, Martyn, Moss, Royle, Baxter, Pemberton, Delaney, Norman. Hill is injured I believe, but most of the other 7 look likely to play against you. Simm, Hurrell and Walmsley were obviously injured against Wigan and the idiots at the RFL have banned Knowles and Sironen.

I'd expect the likes of LMS, Batchelor, Lussick and Bennison to play, potentially Lees, Paasi and Wingfield too.

Possibly something like:

Bennison
Martyn
Davies
Batchelor
Sambou
Welsby
Moss
Paasi
Lussick
Lees
Royle
Bell
Wingfield

LMS
Pemberton
Norman
Buckley