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Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sat May 20, 2023 4:43 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

What has Carter done that caused Murphy to do his ACL?

That's pretty much the same side we have now. We'd still be bottom.

I think Carter did a hip drop on him in training. And then stamped on it. That's what I heard anyway.....

Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sat May 20, 2023 6:10 pm  

Some on here are so naive, you really do accept v]everything the club (Carter) says even if you say you don’t.

Did I say that Carter was to blame for every player that’s left the club.
You can believe what you want about Batch, Aydin, Croft and Shaw, personally I know Carter and the players in question better than most on here so I’m happy I know what went on.

As for having the same team well had we retained some of the lads that have left we might not have been stuck with Proctor, Atoni and Taufua. Had Carter not stubbornly backed Chester for too long we probably wouldn’t be stuck with Linham for another.

So take their wages and make better overseas recruitment decisions adding some quality to the team I wrote down and we’d be in better shape than where we are now.

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Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sat May 20, 2023 6:33 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

So take their wages and make better overseas recruitment decisions adding some quality to the team I wrote down and we’d be in better shape than where we are now.

Well you certainly implied it.....so are you saying he isn't to blame?

And you could say the overseas thing about any team.
We are certainly suffering from some poor decisions on overseas players but it's easy with hindsight to call it out.
If you know them so well I'd have thought you would have advised them in who to get.

Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sat May 20, 2023 7:20 pm  

lampyboy wrote:

Was Rocky actually offered a contract,

No he wasn't.

A previous coach, that he would never pull on a Wakefield shirt ever again, as long as Carter was at the club, as he doesn't like his Dad.

Therefore, nothing was ever offered.

Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sun May 21, 2023 9:19 am  

PopTart wrote:

Well you certainly implied it.....so are you saying he isn't to blame?

And you could say the overseas thing about any team.
We are certainly suffering from some poor decisions on overseas players but it's easy with hindsight to call it out.
If you know them so well I'd have thought you would have advised them in who to get.

I don’t “imply” things PT
If I know something I say it, unequivocally!

Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sun May 21, 2023 9:29 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Sam Eseh absolutely needs to be the next signed up on a dual contract. In a couple of years he will really shine imo.

Unfortunately, can’t see us keeping him.

Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sun May 21, 2023 9:56 am  

Pat Bateman wrote:

Unfortunately, can’t see us keeping him.

How does compensation work for players under 22 if relegated. The fact the club have developed them doesn’t change.

I would hope Eseh would give us a year though with loyalty. A full season in the championship at 20 would do him good (if full time).

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Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sun May 21, 2023 10:18 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

How does compensation work for players under 22 if relegated. The fact the club have developed them doesn’t change.

I would hope Eseh would give us a year though with loyalty. A full season in the championship at 20 would do him good (if full time).

The loyalty thing is unfair.
We need to make him an offer worthy of his consideration and he needs to decide if that's right for him given other team offers.
Loyalty doesn't count for me.

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Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sun May 21, 2023 10:19 am  

But Whitbread needs to be the one try and keep.
He'll be the hardest as I actually feel he could play in NRL but I'd rather make him our marquee player instead of an old NRL star.

Re: Jowitt New Deal : Sun May 21, 2023 11:45 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

How does compensation work for players under 22 if relegated. The fact the club have developed them doesn’t change.

I would hope Eseh would give us a year though with loyalty. A full season in the championship at 20 would do him good (if full time).

Not sure how that works in those circumstances, but he’s possibly our best young asset, I’m sure a few SL teams are interested