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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:19 am  
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Has anyone seen Burgess playing for Cairns? Massively unfit - would take 6 months to get to speed


The first thing I saw was a video of him coaching the kids (good to give back) but jesus he looks fat. I don't think he'll be coming to us, just speculation because Cas couldn't make it work.
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:44 am  
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Why did you make him an offer then?

Because we hadn't signed the Greek lad at that time.
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:45 am  
Having watched him at Wigan and having just watched the Cairns Brothers game on YouTube there are some very noticeable differences.

He is clearly carrying a bit more timber however to say he is “fat” is a bit of a stretch, he is a massive bloke, unless you have seen him up close I don’t think you appreciate how big he is and as these body types get older they tend to carry a bit more fat.

His mobility is significantly improved. His lateral movement is different level to what is was prior to his hip replacement. He shows no signs of struggling to slide in defence.

2 more noticeable things are when he hits lads in defence, they stay hit, and when he carries he attracts 3 or 4 defenders makes good post contact meters and finds his front.

I’m not saying he isn’t a risk, but he is a very low risk if our new owner is happy to pay for him to come in for the rest of the season. I think signing him longer than that initially would be unwise until we could assess him and see how his fitness holds up before thinking about a longer term deal.

The cynic that I am with a marketing head on says recruiting a Burgess even short term would attract media attention and boost our online profile and social media engagement all assisting with the IMG criteria for a place in SL.
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:25 pm  
I don’t think his name carries the same weight it used to.
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:43 pm  
How’s your cat, have you kicked it lately?
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:14 pm  
jonh wrote:
Having watched him at Wigan and having just watched the Cairns Brothers game on YouTube there are some very noticeable differences.

He is clearly carrying a bit more timber however to say he is “fat” is a bit of a stretch, he is a massive bloke, unless you have seen him up close I don’t think you appreciate how big he is and as these body types get older they tend to carry a bit more fat.

His mobility is significantly improved. His lateral movement is different level to what is was prior to his hip replacement. He shows no signs of struggling to slide in defence.

2 more noticeable things are when he hits lads in defence, they stay hit, and when he carries he attracts 3 or 4 defenders makes good post contact meters and finds his front.

I’m not saying he isn’t a risk, but he is a very low risk if our new owner is happy to pay for him to come in for the rest of the season. I think signing him longer than that initially would be unwise until we could assess him and see how his fitness holds up before thinking about a longer term deal.

The cynic that I am with a marketing head on says recruiting a Burgess even short term would attract media attention and boost our online profile and social media engagement all assisting with the IMG criteria for a place in SL.


I completely agree about the size comment. He's just gigantic.

In my opinion, If he can get fit and play injury and pain free - if he's operating at 30% of the player he used to be - He's still very high up on our list of props.
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:57 pm  
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I don’t think his name carries the same weight it used to.


Take your head out of the sand.
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:23 pm  
Be realistic. If he struggled for Wigan…
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Re: New prop : Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:43 pm  
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Be realistic. If he struggled for Wigan…


Already covered that if you care to read.

Covert Cas fan?
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Re: New prop : Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:25 am  
Just because I disagree with you makes me a Cas fan? Unlike yourself I don’t switch between two different clubs week in week out.
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