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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:06 pm  
To be fair to refs they are human and cannot see everything , I think the issue is that they have to say try ,no try and evidence has to be conclusive to overturn which sometimes is still not that easy. Overall the correct decision is made and in reality nothing in life is 100% certain. As I said before var was supposed to end all arguments in football but they are worse decisions made now than before
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:37 pm  
Not sure if the kick-and-clap brigade still use it these days 'cos I don't watch it but when they send a decision to the video ref the on-field ref says "Is there any reason why I can't award a try ?". Why can't we do the same as this then stops the on-field ref having to guess at a decision ??
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:16 pm  
Or the NRL where every try is looked at
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:13 pm  
To be fair it was very dodgy even though his reaction is oot. The ref gave no try for obstruction and the video ref said he could see no real obstruction and sounded like he was going to give it. Then he seemed to have a change of heart and disallowed it.

Now this is where I have the issue, when the ref gives it the video has to show clear proof and in my view there should be try/no try or video ref's call. This year we have seen many trys given and not given where it appeared to be incorrect. How does the ref in real time become a better judge than someone watching in slow mo from all angles?

We also need to clear the obstruction rule up slightly brushing against a defender is not obstruction. Also the high tackle where a player tackles the top of the arm and it bounces up in my view unless there is real dangerous contact they should go back to where the first contact was made. There are far more dangerous cannonball tackles and you can do these if your the first in the tackle and that needs looking at,
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:42 am  
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To be fair it was very dodgy even though his reaction is oot. The ref gave no try for obstruction and the video ref said he could see no real obstruction and sounded like he was going to give it. Then he seemed to have a change of heart and disallowed it.

Now this is where I have the issue, when the ref gives it the video has to show clear proof and in my view there should be try/no try or video ref's call. This year we have seen many trys given and not given where it appeared to be incorrect. How does the ref in real time become a better judge than someone watching in slow mo from all angles?

We also need to clear the obstruction rule up slightly brushing against a defender is not obstruction. Also the high tackle where a player tackles the top of the arm and it bounces up in my view unless there is real dangerous contact they should go back to where the first contact was made. There are far more dangerous cannonball tackles and you can do these if your the first in the tackle and that needs looking at,


The issue with the try is the ref sends it up as no try. But for what reason? If he sends it up as a try on field. Would the video ref overturn it for the same reason.
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:25 am  
He gave no try on the assumption that there was obstruction. Probably from his view in real time it looked worse than it was. That's why it's flawed by ref having to say try / no try on narginal cases. Like others have said union have another method and so as nrl both better options. Also this try was not in the last minute, there was loads of time for Wigan to score again and like goods sides do they play at one tempo when winning and up it when losing.
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:26 am  
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:59 pm  
Degsy is going to be blowing his top again if that try Kendal and Smith just conspired to give costs them the game. :lol:
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:26 pm  
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Degsy is going to be blowing his top again if that try Kendal and Smith just conspired to give costs them the game. :lol:

Plus pulling them up for obstructing when it looked like they were going to score, ,they scored 3 trys against us at the start of season, . It is obstruction and they get away with it a lot Catalan use the same move as well ,they did it 4 \5 times at Wakefield just got pulled up once
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Re: OT- Derek Beaumont statement : Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:10 pm  
Can't wait for tonights rant. Not seen anything of any action against him for his earlier rant.
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