Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:15 am  

Miro wrote:

Prince Charles eh?
Global leaders from the United Nations, United Kingdom, United States, International Monetary Fund and multi-national corporations

I think you will find they have hell of a lot of influence Pop Tart. Just the IMF alone. You do know they lend money to almost every country in the world.

As they say “he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Next:

MULT NATIONAL CORPORATIONS. Yeah, no influence there.

UNITED STATES...800 military bases around the world. Not shy of invading if a country does not play ball. Yup, no influence there Pop Tart.

Yep, that re-set sure sounds like a goer to me.
Of course they will screw it up, just like these people have screwd up everything they have ever touched.

Miro where does the IMF get the money that it loans out?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:28 am  

RickK wrote:

Miro where does the IMF get the money that it loans out?

There are approx. 190 member countries and they all contribute to the fund.
Though personaly, and I don't know, I think shhhh They just print it.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:37 am  

You appear to be arguing a strong case for this 'reset', global or otherwise it appears it is a done deal with all those organisations and countries of influence backing it.

Personally I do believe that you are pretty bored during locked down and you're having a bit of fun or if not that maybe you need a little bit of guidance.

Do enough research you can find facts. figures and quotes to back just about anything and many do.

Reality is, if there are three or more involved in anything at least one will be disappointed at some point, if its just two the natural Boss will always choose a follower.

I would be very interested in you giving an insight on how you feel the issues can be solved rather than just spouting, hey we have a problem and this is why, answers please.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:38 am  

djcool wrote:

Looked up Justin Haskins, not much on him, can't find any peer review of his work, he is mentioned on Fox News and his Wikipedia page is set for deletion. So I don't know what "proof" his word is

If his wikipedia page is set for deletion thats probobly a good sign. Means he's perhaps digging a little too deep for some? You perhaps?
The media powers that be (BBC, Google, Facebook etc.) are dab hands at censorship in this day and age.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:41 am  

Miro wrote: I actually said "vehicle for slashing and burning OUR economy" Not the global economy. I believe this distinction is very important. Now I think you will agree the evidence is all around you. I have lost 2/3 of my own business directly due to the current situation. In the near future, once furlough ends, there will be thousands in this country alone unemployed and hundreds of firms will never re-open. I don't see where the jobs will be for school levers, do you? This isn't me saying this, well, not just me, but even the MSM are reporting this. "Slash and burn" I think I was understating the situation actually. Whatever, add in the rising cancer and suicide rates then I honestly believe the responce to this years flu was wholy disproportionate and certainly no accident. As for the GLOBAL economy. This crashes every few years. Go back to the days of the depression or nearer to home, 2008. All the indicators are showing that the great ponzi scheme such as printing money with nothing to back it i.e. gold, will cause the bubble to burst anytime soon. All the commentators report that the lessons of 2008 were never learned and we had business as usual. But, I admit, I know not enough about economies on such a scale, but I know my economy, our economy. But this what the World Economic Forum has to say: There is good reason to worry: a sharp economic downturn has already begun, and we could be facing the worst depression since the 1930s. But, while this outcome is likely, it is not unavoidable. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/ ... eat-reset/ I would imagine to have a THE GREAT RE-SET is rather more than tinkering round the edges. Sorry to hear your business is suffering. I'm still seeking some clarity. Is it just the UK economy that world elites are trying to crash by creating the 'virus' hoax? Can't they just do that by doing nothing and allowing us to crash out of the EU without a deal and maybe encouraging the French fishermen to blockade the channel? Why go to all that effort? Did the 'elites' gain or lose from the 2008 crisis? As you say, things eventually carried on much as before, why didn't the 'elites' force changes then? This crash and subsequent depression is likely to the biggest and most widespread ever. What is the mechanism for these 'elites' to profit from the situation? Are they buying gold? Investing in renewable energy? Shares in big pharma? How are they protecting their wealth? Is there any evidence for the mass movement of money? Higher unemployment could lead to cheaper labour, but loss of production and trade is surely a bad thing for those with money. Property prices are also likely to take a hit, especially in big cities where investors have an interest.

Miro wrote: I actually said "vehicle for slashing and burning OUR economy" Not the global economy. I believe this distinction is very important. Now I think you will agree the evidence is all around you. I have lost 2/3 of my own business directly due to the current situation. In the near future, once furlough ends, there will be thousands in this country alone unemployed and hundreds of firms will never re-open. I don't see where the jobs will be for school levers, do you? This isn't me saying this, well, not just me, but even the MSM are reporting this. "Slash and burn" I think I was understating the situation actually. Whatever, add in the rising cancer and suicide rates then I honestly believe the responce to this years flu was wholy disproportionate and certainly no accident. As for the GLOBAL economy. This crashes every few years. Go back to the days of the depression or nearer to home, 2008. All the indicators are showing that the great ponzi scheme such as printing money with nothing to back it i.e. gold, will cause the bubble to burst anytime soon. All the commentators report that the lessons of 2008 were never learned and we had business as usual. But, I admit, I know not enough about economies on such a scale, but I know my economy, our economy. But this what the World Economic Forum has to say: There is good reason to worry: a sharp economic downturn has already begun, and we could be facing the worst depression since the 1930s. But, while this outcome is likely, it is not unavoidable. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/ ... eat-reset/ I would imagine to have a THE GREAT RE-SET is rather more than tinkering round the edges. Sorry to hear your business is suffering. I'm still seeking some clarity. Is it just the UK economy that world elites are trying to crash by creating the 'virus' hoax? Can't they just do that by doing nothing and allowing us to crash out of the EU without a deal and maybe encouraging the French fishermen to blockade the channel? Why go to all that effort? Did the 'elites' gain or lose from the 2008 crisis? As you say, things eventually carried on much as before, why didn't the 'elites' force changes then? This crash and subsequent depression is likely to the biggest and most widespread ever. What is the mechanism for these 'elites' to profit from the situation? Are they buying gold? Investing in renewable energy? Shares in big pharma? How are they protecting their wealth? Is there any evidence for the mass movement of money? Higher unemployment could lead to cheaper labour, but loss of production and trade is surely a bad thing for those with money. Property prices are also likely to take a hit, especially in big cities where investors have an interest.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:54 am  

RickK wrote:

You appear to be arguing a strong case for this 'reset', global or otherwise it appears it is a done deal with all those organisations and countries of influence backing it.

Personally I do believe that you are pretty bored during locked down and you're having a bit of fun or if not that maybe you need a little bit of guidance.

Do enough research you can find facts. figures and quotes to back just about anything and many do.

Reality is, if there are three or more involved in anything at least one will be disappointed at some point, if its just two the natural Boss will always choose a follower.

I would be very interested in you giving an insight on how you feel the issues can be solved rather than just spouting, hey we have a problem and this is why, answers please.

Your very disingenuous there. Look through my posts and you will see where I have given my solution.

So, being concerned at the state of things, looking for reasons for the whole shabang, losing a 2/3 of my business and seeing one grandaughter having to wear a muzzle at school and another one, 8 years old, isolated at home because a girl in her class had a temperature, and the rest.... is the result of "boredom" and me having "fun ?" Yeah right

As for the 8 year old. She is growing up so fast, why, I do declare, she'll be getting measured up for her very first muzzle before we know it. Yup, they grow up soooo fast these days.


But again, why are folk like me sneared at by the likes of you when all we are doing is wanting to bring out into the open the stuff the MSM prefer us not to see.

Grow up. Get the vaccine (complete with updates and patches etc, Bill Gates funded remember) and continue drinking the the cool aid.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:10 am  

coco the fullback wrote:

Sorry to hear your business is suffering.

I'm still seeking some clarity.

Is it just the UK economy that world elites are trying to crash by creating the 'virus' hoax?
Can't they just do that by doing nothing and allowing us to crash out of the EU without a deal and maybe encouraging the French fishermen to blockade the channel?
Why go to all that effort?

Did the 'elites' gain or lose from the 2008 crisis?
As you say, things eventually carried on much as before, why didn't the 'elites' force changes then?

This crash and subsequent depression is likely to the biggest and most widespread ever.

What is the mechanism for these 'elites' to profit from the situation?
Are they buying gold?
Investing in renewable energy?
Shares in big pharma?
How are they protecting their wealth?
Is there any evidence for the mass movement of money?
Higher unemployment could lead to cheaper labour, but loss of production and trade is surely a bad thing for those with money.
Property prices are also likely to take a hit, especially in big cities where investors have an interest.

Love your avitar of Fletch. I have a great pic I took of him back in 79. Would love to give it to him should I meet the guy.

I think you would have to ask the elites all that.
One thing you should consider, I don't believe the "elites" you know, the 1 % who own 90% of the worlds wealth, are really interested in money anymore. I believe it's more about power and the ability to manipulate the rest of us into whatever "utopia" they envisage.
That might sound fancifull but in my own moments of badness, that's what I would do in their position. Jokin

Now, they would not be the first to do that would they? As history has shown.

Take religeons for instance, those people were hardly interested in investements and real estate.
Sorry I don't have the answers but with their track record of hoovering up all the worlds wealth and hording it I don't think for one minute it will end well for us.

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:27 am  

Miro wrote:

Your very disingenuous there. Look through my posts and you will see where I have given my solution.

So, being concerned at the state of things, looking for reasons for the whole shabang, losing a 2/3 of my business and seeing one grandaughter having to wear a muzzle at school and another one, 8 years old, isolated at home because a girl in her class had a temperature, and the rest.... is the result of "boredom" and me having "fun ?" Yeah right

As for the 8 year old. She is growing up so fast, why, I do declare, she'll be getting measured up for her very first muzzle before we know it. Yup, they grow up soooo fast these days.


But again, why are folk like me sneared at by the likes of you when all we are doing is wanting to bring out into the open the stuff the MSM prefer us not to see.

Grow up. Get the vaccine (complete with updates and patches etc, Bill Gates funded remember) and continue drinking the the cool aid.

You just have to sensationalise matters 'muzzle' I am pretty sure she's wearing a face mask probably made of fabric and if Mum Dad or even Grumpy Granddad have got any sense it will be one with cartoon characters, a unicorn or whatever to make it a little more acceptable to the kid and hopefully a simple explanation of why without sensationalising the situation for the kid or did you tell her she's to got wear a muzzle just like a rabid dog..

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:00 am  

Miro wrote:

But again, why are folk like me sneared at by the likes of you when all we are doing is wanting to bring out into the open the stuff the MSM prefer us not to see.

Grow up. Get the vaccine (complete with updates and patches etc, Bill Gates funded remember) and continue drinking the the cool aid.

You are sneered at because there is no rationale in your theory.
The reasoning behind it just doesnt stack up ??

As for the vaccine that you seem so fearful of. Surely, if any "group" wanted to deliberately "infect" the masses, there would be far, far ,easier ways of doing so.
Also, where do you stand on the flu vaccine, already used to HELP millions of people EVERY year - is this why the oldies voted Brexit.
As for kids waring face coverings as a PRECAUTION, it may not be anyone's first choice of what to wear but, it they offer protection to others, where is the problem.
Kids had to wear gas masks during the war and while there is little doubt that this was way, way worse than any covid situation, the scars of war dont come from having to wear a gas mask.
I suppose we could just say, sod it, let's all crack on as we did 12 months ago and see just what happens ?

Re: What now for fans watching ? - Covid chat : Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:12 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

You are sneered at because there is no rationale in your theory.
The reasoning behind it just doesnt stack up ??

As for the vaccine that you seem so fearful of. Surely, if any "group" wanted to deliberately "infect" the masses, there would be far, far ,easier ways of doing so.
Also, where do you stand on the flu vaccine, already used to HELP millions of people EVERY year - is this why the oldies voted Brexit.
As for kids waring face coverings as a PRECAUTION, it may not be anyone's first choice of what to wear but, it they offer protection to others, where is the problem.
Kids had to wear gas masks during the war and while there is little doubt that this was way, way worse than any covid situation, the scars of war dont come from having to wear a gas mask.
I suppose we could just say, sod it, let's all crack on as we did 12 months ago and see just what happens ?

It doesn't "protect" everyone.
Thousands that have had that vaccine still die from flu every year.