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Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:18 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The Cas / Rovers game showed up just how mickey poor our recruitment and player retention is.
Dagger is going ok but, Hall, who is still young and learning his craft, is quality.
Hall, Miller and Batch are better than what we have in their positions and it's not even close.
Obviously McShane comes into the same category but, he never seemed to fit at Trinity.
We could throw in Westerman too but, in fairness, he's Cas to the core, albeit that he played really well for us whilst he was here.

With those few players in our squad, we would have something close to a winning side

On a different note, how good is Abdul ?

And yet many on this board has pretty much trashed Miller, Westerman and McShane from day 1.

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:27 am  

Abdul is very good, not the quickest, and quite big for a half, but his kicking game and organisation skills are second to none.

Add to that, the fire in the belly of his half back partner, Mikey Lewis, something we lack on both counts.

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Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:38 am  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Abdul is very good, not the quickest, and quite big for a half, but his kicking game and organisation skills are second to none.

Add to that, the fire in the belly of his half back partner, Mikey Lewis, something we lack on both counts.

Both have benefitted from having a top half back as coach I think.
Abdul has always been criticised for being slow but they've concentrated on using his skills rather than fixing his failures....and have a half back that compliments him.

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:03 am  

PopTart wrote:

And yet many on this board has pretty much trashed Miller, Westerman and McShane from day 1.

Do not count me as one

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:08 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

The Cas / Rovers game showed up just how mickey poor our recruitment and player retention is.
Dagger is going ok but, Hall, who is still young and learning his craft, is quality.
Hall, Miller and Batch are better than what we have in their positions and it's not even close.
Obviously McShane comes into the same category but, he never seemed to fit at Trinity.
We could throw in Westerman too but, in fairness, he's Cas to the core, albeit that he played really well for us whilst he was here.

With those few players in our squad, we would have something close to a winning side

On a different note, how good is Abdul ?

George King as well. He’s been their best prop ever since he joined them.

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Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:29 am  

Sacred Cow wrote:

George King as well. He’s been their best prop ever since he joined them.

I liked him. Did nothing fancy but does his job with dew mistakes and has a decent engine.
He's nit what we need now though. We need a metre gainer....and a line breaker would be nice.

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:35 am  

Good grief, not the old McShane thing again! It's been discussed and documented lots of times over the years how he somehow found himself at Trinity, when all he wanted was to be at Cas.He was as fat as a pudding when he arrived, showed the odd glimpses of what he could do,but generally made it clear he wanted away by showing utter contempt for us by not trying.I was to see the back of him.

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:38 am  

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And yet many on this board has pretty much trashed Miller, Westerman and McShane from day 1.

You may be right.
However, if you were given a choice of Miller or Gaskill, Mcshane or Hood and Westerman or Proctor/Atoni, who would you pick.
Miller is a decent player, who didnt show his best often enough. Westerman, although towards the end of his career, is quality and Mcshane has proven to be both good and versatile.
Mind you, even with those three players in their squad, Cas are not exactly breaking any pots and yet, those players would breeze into our starting 13/17.
How many of our current squad would make it into the Cas or KR first 17.

Getting back to Hall and Batchelor, we've lost two very, very good players.

In a decent KR side, Hall looks quality and yet, we literally gave him away.

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:02 pm  

I'm still trying to come to terms with the Corey Hall fiasco.No disrespect to Dagger,but it's really about Hall.Watching him for KR last night it's
clear at 20 he has the world at his feet once he matures, if not already.I can understand that we needed a FB and were backed into a corner, but come on!
This deal will go down as one of the worst bits of business for a club in the history of bad deals.

Re: Other team discussion : Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:12 pm  

Well, I’ve just had a look on the Castleford forum, and their fan’s frustration re coaching and some players, almost identical to some Trinity fans posting on this forum, given the fact Castleford are 4 league points better off than Trinity, those tigers fans should be thankful for small mercies.