Re: Brough is back : Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:08 pm  

vastman wrote:

It does, I’ll never get the SOL thing, never rated him.

Almost conclusive evidence you don't actually watch rugby league

Re: Brough is back : Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:10 pm  

Also think O’loughlin vastly over rated.
Strangely by some RL luminaries.
Perhaps we know naff all.

Re: Brough is back : Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:03 pm  

I think SOL is immense, he has been and absolutely fantastic player - he still is but just not for as long at a time. You only have to look at the way he improves Wigan when on the park. They know the value of him and do everything to get him on the park at crucial times of the season, wrapping him in cotton wool nowadays. I get the impression he is a phenomenal influence on his teammates and his presence produces an extra 5-10% out of his peers.

Along with Roby, been the stand out performer in SL over the last 6-7 years or so for me (when fit).

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:15 am  

Tommy Duckfingers wrote:

I think SOL is immense, he has been and absolutely fantastic player - he still is but just not for as long at a time. You only have to look at the way he improves Wigan when on the park. They know the value of him and do everything to get him on the park at crucial times of the season, wrapping him in cotton wool nowadays. I get the impression he is a phenomenal influence on his teammates and his presence produces an extra 5-10% out of his peers.

Along with Roby, been the stand out performer in SL over the last 6-7 years or so for me (when fit).

Opinions differ but not for me. One thing I do know is that the Aussies don’t rate him and never have and they know a thing or too.

Tell me of one international game where he stood out? That’s where I judge true quality. I’ve watched them all and the answer is none - anonymous in every game.

Also ever wondered why Farrell never took him to Union for mega bucks? Me too.

Roby I’ll go with.

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:16 am  

musson wrote:

Almost conclusive evidence you don't actually watch rugby league

LOL yep I think almost anyone’s reputation can survive one of your clueless observations - carry on.

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:33 am  

vastman wrote:

Opinions differ but not for me. One thing I do know is that the Aussies don’t rate him and never have and they know a thing or too.

When you say 'the Aussies' I'm going to take that to able to be able to make such a sweeping statement on behalf of Australia and its people you must have being able to gain that insight by one if not all of the below:

You flew to Australia and did a match exit questionnaire to all the NRL clubs over a year period asking the question

Do you rate SO? Answer Yes or no

Upon completion of your year long survey you interviewed each NRL player asking the same question

Finally you held open forums with the media asking them, do you rate SO?

if you didn't do one of the above then your statement that the Aussies don't rate SO is just you making that statement off your own back and has no factual reality whatsoever, pretty much what you do every day on here

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:43 am  

vastman wrote:

Opinions differ but not for me. One thing I do know is that the Aussies don’t rate him and never have and they know a thing or too.

Tell me of one international game where he stood out? That’s where I judge true quality. I’ve watched them all and the answer is none - anonymous in every game.

Also ever wondered why Farrell never took him to Union for mega bucks? Me too.

Roby I’ll go with.

That means Jermaine McGillvary is the best winger in the league then Vasty? Strange, i'm sure you posted elsewhere that the untried Johnstone was the 'best winger in the league on form and quality' rankled with me a bit that did, but i see you have seen sense in the end!

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:48 am  

I'd bet there would have been a lot more positivity around a rumour that we were signing OLoughlin than Brough. When fit I'd have him on the pitch against the Aussies every time. For some time I've thought if money were no object he's be the ideally captain to build any team around.
So just his fitness and the money then?

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:36 am  

Are any of the latest meanderings pertinent to the Brough for and against sage

Re: Brough is back : Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:36 am  

The one thing I admire about SOL is how he manages to gear his team up for the big games. Other than that he's a cheap shot thug made of biscuit.