It doesn't "protect" everyone. Thousands that have had that vaccine still die from flu every year.
Indeed so. The point that I was trying to make to our resident conspiracist is that, why would we need a new vaccine if the aim of a covid vaccine was to "take control" of the masses. Surely "they" (whoever they are) could just alter the "mix" of the standard flu jab.
I fully realise that it doesn't fully protect everyone and that unfortunately 1000's die of regular flu and FWIW, any covid vaccine would likely be similar (not fully protect everyone).
Indeed so. The point that I was trying to make to our resident conspiracist is that, why would we need a new vaccine if the aim of a covid vaccine was to "take control" of the masses. Surely "they" (whoever they are) could just alter the "mix" of the standard flu jab.
I fully realise that it doesn't fully protect everyone and that unfortunately 1000's die of regular flu and FWIW, any covid vaccine would likely be similar (not fully protect everyone).
Going after the messenger and trying to discredit him is an old trick, it's what the MSM do all the time instead of looking into what he says, not who said it. . He reported something for our benefit, where do you get off trying to rubbish him? Try this for size, I'll point you the way.
But it is how valid the messenger is, to how valid the message is, do you believe anything some random guy says?
Miro wrote:
Going after the messenger and trying to discredit him is an old trick, it's what the MSM do all the time instead of looking into what he says, not who said it. . He reported something for our benefit, where do you get off trying to rubbish him? Try this for size, I'll point you the way.
Love your avitar of Fletch. I have a great pic I took of him back in 79. Would love to give it to him should I meet the guy.
I think you would have to ask the elites all that. One thing you should consider, I don't believe the "elites" you know, the 1 % who own 90% of the worlds wealth, are really interested in money anymore. I believe it's more about power and the ability to manipulate the rest of us into whatever "utopia" they envisage. That might sound fancifull but in my own moments of badness, that's what I would do in their position. Jokin
Now, they would not be the first to do that would they? As history has shown.
Take religeons for instance, those people were hardly interested in investements and real estate. Sorry I don't have the answers but with their track record of hoovering up all the worlds wealth and hording it I don't think for one minute it will end well for us.
Are you related to Joan Miro the artist? Some of his work is how I see your befuddled Covid Conspiracy mind to be. I'm not a fan of his either, lazy and a tad childlike style but a little tidier than a child
Borrowed from a friend on-line - a bit of fun that maybe puts a bit of perspective on the situation.
At no point EVER in the history of the world, have all the governments, of all the countries, of the whole planet, got together and gone:
“Hey, can we all agree that there is some kind of plague going on? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Okay, can we all agree to disagree publicly about the best way to handle it? It’ll seem more realistic this way? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Okay, great! Can we get all the doctors and nurses etc on board? We’ll need some people to lie about cause of death for at least 700,000 people... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Some of you might have to cop a bit of crap, and be pretty much blamed for everything, including who individual idiots choose to shag. You okay with that Dan?”
* Dan nods head
“We’ll need Bill Gates to promote a vaccine that includes a microchip... can someone get Bill on board? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“We’re gonna call it Corona virus - it’s a real type of virus thing, but can someone check with Cerveceria Modelo if they’re happy for their beer to take a hit when idiots correlate the two? You all okay with that? Mexico? Belgium?”
* all nod heads
“We’ll need to spread the non-existent plague through 5G towers - can someone get the telco’s for every country on board? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Look, we’re going to need to crash the economy of the whole world - you might cop some flack... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“We need a guy to eat a raw bat... we need to have a country to blame....can someone get on that? China? Thanks. You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“After that, we’ll need some ways to spread it - let’s focus mainly on cruise ships and old folks homes - you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Some weirdos might come out of the woodwork - we’re gonna have to put tinfoil supply into overdrive.... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“They’re the ones we want though, okay? Divide and conquer. You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Oh yeah, no leaks, ok? The public can’t know about this.... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“We’ll need a coupla high profile celebs on board? They need to be loveable. Can someone check if Tom Hanks is happy to get it and recover? Also, check if Tim Brookes-Taylor is happy to get it and die. You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Now, Trump, you’re gonna have to keep acting like a dude, if this is to be believable. America will probably have to have more deaths than most other countries, and it needs to seem like it’s your fault - you okay with that Don?”
* Trump: “Covfefe”
“Awesome. Great that we’re all agreeable. Now, if any of you in the room are currently at war with another country in the room, you need to keep that act up, or they’ll be onto us - you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Oh, and we need someone to come up with bizarre cures....anyone? Anyone? Don?”
Borrowed from a friend on-line - a bit of fun that maybe puts a bit of perspective on the situation.
At no point EVER in the history of the world, have all the governments, of all the countries, of the whole planet, got together and gone:
“Hey, can we all agree that there is some kind of plague going on? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Okay, can we all agree to disagree publicly about the best way to handle it? It’ll seem more realistic this way? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Okay, great! Can we get all the doctors and nurses etc on board? We’ll need some people to lie about cause of death for at least 700,000 people... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Some of you might have to cop a bit of crap, and be pretty much blamed for everything, including who individual idiots choose to shag. You okay with that Dan?”
* Dan nods head
“We’ll need Bill Gates to promote a vaccine that includes a microchip... can someone get Bill on board? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“We’re gonna call it Corona virus - it’s a real type of virus thing, but can someone check with Cerveceria Modelo if they’re happy for their beer to take a hit when idiots correlate the two? You all okay with that? Mexico? Belgium?”
* all nod heads
“We’ll need to spread the non-existent plague through 5G towers - can someone get the telco’s for every country on board? You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Look, we’re going to need to crash the economy of the whole world - you might cop some flack... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“We need a guy to eat a raw bat... we need to have a country to blame....can someone get on that? China? Thanks. You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“After that, we’ll need some ways to spread it - let’s focus mainly on cruise ships and old folks homes - you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Some weirdos might come out of the woodwork - we’re gonna have to put tinfoil supply into overdrive.... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“They’re the ones we want though, okay? Divide and conquer. You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Oh yeah, no leaks, ok? The public can’t know about this.... you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“We’ll need a coupla high profile celebs on board? They need to be loveable. Can someone check if Tom Hanks is happy to get it and recover? Also, check if Tim Brookes-Taylor is happy to get it and die. You all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Now, Trump, you’re gonna have to keep acting like a dude, if this is to be believable. America will probably have to have more deaths than most other countries, and it needs to seem like it’s your fault - you okay with that Don?”
* Trump: “Covfefe”
“Awesome. Great that we’re all agreeable. Now, if any of you in the room are currently at war with another country in the room, you need to keep that act up, or they’ll be onto us - you all okay with that?”
* all nod heads
“Oh, and we need someone to come up with bizarre cures....anyone? Anyone? Don?”
A conspiracy would never be achieved overnight through a few hooded men sat round a table under a full moon, most likely achieved through years of planning, it would start by pledging financial loans to countries to get them to comply with orders from an organisation above i.e the Word Health Organisation along with exploitation of individual greed, intimidation, blackmailing, bribes, social indoctrination and psychological warfare etc
Well steadygetyerboots-on let me enlighten you on just a few of those points
The UK Government admits paying Love Island stars taxpayer funds to promote Test and Trace scheme
As for Tom Hanks he always has the flu, here's a strange speech he made back in January of this year, go to Youtube and watch 'Cecil B. deMille Award Recipient Tom Hanks Full Press Room Speech | THR'
Microchipping is explained here and is entirely plausible
Even the BBC endorse it with a perspective into the future
BBC "Travellers would present the customs officers with an entrance visa and a vaccination record. That could be a paper card – or a tiny tattoo on their arm, invisible to the naked eye but readable by an infrared scanner. This technology already exists and has been tried on live animals and human cadaver skin, said researcher Ana Jaklenec at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Their method uses micro-needle patches that can deliver both the vaccine and a squirt of an invisible ink under the person’s skin, storing the vaccination record."
As for the vaccine agenda I can't see how it can't be clearer. "Sir" Patrick Vallance on 21 September claimed in regards to COVID "When people have an infection, the vast majority of people get an antibody response, and we know that some of those antibodies are so-called neutralising antibodies. They do indeed protect against the virus. We also know that they fade over time, and there are cases of people becoming re-infected. So this is not an absolute protection, and it will potentially decrease over time."
Coronavirus vaccine: UK signs deals for 90 million virus vaccine doses (ps population of UK about 68 million). If that doesn't spell MANDATORY vaccination I don't know what will. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53772650
Reported in the Independent five days ago "A Covid-19 vaccine is unlikely to prevent people developing the virus and may only alleviate symptoms, British scientists say. Researchers told ministers that the first vaccine that gains regulatory approval will only be partially effective.A source informed The Times that the country must proceed with caution when the vaccine is rolled out, as early inoculations are unlikely to protect everyone."
My prediction: que Vallance mid-next year before rolling out the vaccine "widespread coronavirus transmission is spread entirely from symptomatic cases." In other words even though the virus is harmless to the majority of the working age population without underlying health issues everyone will need to get the vaccine to stop the spread. Their plan is so predictable.
A conspiracy would never be achieved overnight through a few hooded men sat round a table under a full moon, most likely achieved through years of planning, it would start by pledging financial loans to countries to get them to comply with orders from an organisation above i.e the Word Health Organisation along with exploitation of individual greed, intimidation, blackmailing, bribes, social indoctrination and psychological warfare etc
Well steadygetyerboots-on let me enlighten you on just a few of those points
The UK Government admits paying Love Island stars taxpayer funds to promote Test and Trace scheme
As for Tom Hanks he always has the flu, here's a strange speech he made back in January of this year, go to Youtube and watch 'Cecil B. deMille Award Recipient Tom Hanks Full Press Room Speech | THR'
Microchipping is explained here and is entirely plausible
Even the BBC endorse it with a perspective into the future
BBC "Travellers would present the customs officers with an entrance visa and a vaccination record. That could be a paper card – or a tiny tattoo on their arm, invisible to the naked eye but readable by an infrared scanner. This technology already exists and has been tried on live animals and human cadaver skin, said researcher Ana Jaklenec at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Their method uses micro-needle patches that can deliver both the vaccine and a squirt of an invisible ink under the person’s skin, storing the vaccination record."
As for the vaccine agenda I can't see how it can't be clearer. "Sir" Patrick Vallance on 21 September claimed in regards to COVID "When people have an infection, the vast majority of people get an antibody response, and we know that some of those antibodies are so-called neutralising antibodies. They do indeed protect against the virus. We also know that they fade over time, and there are cases of people becoming re-infected. So this is not an absolute protection, and it will potentially decrease over time."
Coronavirus vaccine: UK signs deals for 90 million virus vaccine doses (ps population of UK about 68 million). If that doesn't spell MANDATORY vaccination I don't know what will. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53772650
Reported in the Independent five days ago "A Covid-19 vaccine is unlikely to prevent people developing the virus and may only alleviate symptoms, British scientists say. Researchers told ministers that the first vaccine that gains regulatory approval will only be partially effective.A source informed The Times that the country must proceed with caution when the vaccine is rolled out, as early inoculations are unlikely to protect everyone."
My prediction: que Vallance mid-next year before rolling out the vaccine "widespread coronavirus transmission is spread entirely from symptomatic cases." In other words even though the virus is harmless to the majority of the working age population without underlying health issues everyone will need to get the vaccine to stop the spread. Their plan is so predictable.
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