Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:41 pm  

asmadasa wrote:

Completely agree…worrying times. Something urgently needs to be done.

Nothing can be done, there are no players on the market who can change things, we have no money even if there was. Whilst the pack was well beaten we still has enough field position to win that game. Re Murphy, its pretty harsh labelling his tackle as an error. It was a well timed dominant tackle that should not have been given as a penalty.

Just seen on the other thread that the win takes Huddersfield to forth. The speaks volumes about the quality of Super League at the moment.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:59 pm  

Wow it is a pick on Murphy day .Murphy went well and does not look out of place on the other wing The penalty for the tackle was a joke .Go as far to say that he out played T J Jowit had a good game at fullback .The problem is the pack in fact go as far as to say the reason why J C does not look out of place is down to playing in a old slow pack as much as J C improving . Thought the team over all played well . But as far as the pack is concerned that as been brought about by not strengthening over the last 3 years .Not a lot W Poaching can do about it.He as been left with the players of the last 3 year And the players the other Coach brough in to strengthen the team this year are a joke

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:00 pm  

I know the forwards aren’t providing a platform for the backs, but for a supposedly England international, Reece The Crab Lyne needs to run forward more than he does sideways, poor display from him again tonight, that second half he ran sideways halfway across field and threw the ball three yards forward onto the ground, not a pretty sight, as for the penalty against Murphy for the alleged tip tackle, that really was a joke decision by the ref, sorry PT, but nothing will convince me otherwise that most of these Refs, are biased.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:02 pm  

alegend wrote:

Wow it is a pick on Murphy day .Murphy went well and does not look out of place on the other wing The penalty for the tackle was a joke .Go as far to say that he out played T J Jowit had a good game at fullback .The problem is the pack in fact go as far as to say the reason why J C does not look out of place is down to playing in a old slow pack as much as J C improving . Thought the team over all played well . But as far as the pack is concerned that as been brought about by not strengthening over the last 3 years .Not a lot W Poaching can do about it.He as been left with the players of the last 3 year And the players the other Coach brough in to strengthen the team this year are a joke

Murphy was superb.

He in my opinion is our form winger.

TJ has been fantastic but I think his time at Trinity is coming to a natural conclusion which is best for both parties. He is sadly a diminishing asset whilst Murphy is on the rise.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:07 pm  

jonh wrote:

Murphy was superb.

He in my opinion is our form winger.

TJ has been fantastic but I think his time at Trinity is coming to a natural conclusion which is best for both parties. He is sadly a diminishing asset whilst Murphy is on the rise.

Maybe the injuries are catching up with him, but he just didn't look himself today. There were a few times in the second half where previously he would've backed himself to go for the line but he checked his run. We still don't use him as we should. Many a time he was stood in open space but the ball was either too slow to get to him or it never made it there. Same with Murphy on the other wing. Ultimately we are just too slow in defence and attack which are the fine margins that could turn a loss like tonight into win.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:16 pm  

Thought Murphy and Jowitt were our best two tonight personally.

I keep seeing people saying Murphy’s tackle wasn’t a penalty. I’m afraid as of this year you’re wrong, it is. The directive is if the legs go above the horizontal it is a penalty and thats what happened. It wasn’t by that much, and whether it was actually ‘dangerous’ is another matter but they are the rules as they stand, whether you like them or not. Technically it was the correct call even though for me it was just a hard, dominant tackle, them’s now the rules people. At the start of the season he’d have likely got sin binned for it so at least that has ended.

If anybody wants a pop at a penalty giver how about targeting the messiah Fifita. The one he gave away by nudging into the guy playing the ball was as dumb as they come and cost us big time.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:18 pm  

Sacred Cow wrote:

Thought Murphy and Jowitt were our best two tonight personally.

I keep seeing people saying Murphy’s tackle wasn’t a penalty. I’m afraid as of this year you’re wrong, it is. The directive is if the legs go above the horizontal it is a penalty and thats what happened. It wasn’t by that much, and whether it was actually ‘dangerous’ is another matter but they are the rules as they stand, whether you like them or not. Technically it was the correct call even though for me it was just a hard, dominant tackle, them’s now the rules people. At the start of the season he’d have likely got sin binned for it so at least that has ended.

If anybody wants a pop at a penalty giver how about targeting the messiah Fifita. The one he gave away by nudging into the guy playing the ball was as dumb as they come and cost us big time.

Don't think it cost us at all, it was on the first tackle and gave us chance to get set. We were just too weak to keep them out. Probably stupid nonetheless

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:23 pm  

For a start not having ago at murphy he has said has a fantastic future and took his try well but the intial point 2 trys came from where he has gifted them possession in a way the tip tackle was a penalty all day long legs above horizontal and the secind he disnt stand to play the ball and hes been pinged as previous stated he is still on a learning curve but peeps on here moan about errors costing us trys and technically they where errors and he is no way been blamed by me for defeat and yes with ball in hand he was probally the best tonight.

As for tommy i got the impression thats a guy who didnt want to get hurt weather thata cos of all the injuries or to protect a move who knows if he does think it will benifit both parties as he will be on good money which can be used elsewhere should we manage to stay up and yes we do have ideal replacement in murphy.

On a much more positive note when we next ko in toulouse ill be in sin city so it wont dampen my day like tonight has

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:35 pm  

Luppylad wrote:

For a start not having ago at murphy he has said has a fantastic future and took his try well but the intial point 2 trys came from where he has gifted them possession in a way the tip tackle was a penalty all day long legs above horizontal and the secind he disnt stand to play the ball and hes been pinged as previous stated he is still on a learning curve but peeps on here moan about errors costing us trys and technically they where errors and he is no way been blamed by me for defeat and yes with ball in hand he was probally the best tonight.

As for tommy i got the impression thats a guy who didnt want to get hurt weather thata cos of all the injuries or to protect a move who knows if he does think it will benifit both parties as he will be on good money which can be used elsewhere should we manage to stay up and yes we do have ideal replacement in murphy.

On a much more positive note when we next ko in toulouse ill be in sin city so it wont dampen my day like tonight has

I’m not comfortable with either call on Murphy.

I can kind of understand both but I’m not comfortable.

The tackle was fantastic. In my opinion Lutelli, who is a world class centre, understands he had been dominated and twists to find his front whilst on the air.

For a long time I’ve said whilst the impetus is on the defender to look after the ball carrier, the ball carrier has to look after themselves too.

There were tons of scruffy post there balls all night. In fact I’ve not seen as poorly reffed rucks in a long time. I’m watching it back now and there are hands and hips and elbows all over the player playing the ball from both sides all night.

Ref only seemed interested though when Murphy and Fafita got it wrong on the lead up to the second try.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:53 pm  

jonh wrote:

I’m not comfortable with either call on Murphy.

I can kind of understand both but I’m not comfortable.

The tackle was fantastic. In my opinion Lutelli, who is a world class centre, understands he had been dominated and twists to find his front whilst on the air.

For a long time I’ve said whilst the impetus is on the defender to look after the ball carrier, the ball carrier has to look after themselves too.

There were tons of scruffy post there balls all night. In fact I’ve not seen as poorly reffed rucks in a long time. I’m watching it back now and there are hands and hips and elbows all over the player playing the ball from both sides all night.

Ref only seemed interested though when Murphy and Fafita got it wrong on the lead up to the second try.

Weather there correct calls or not and for me it was a pen his feet went above horizontal and the 2nd seen them given and not given but there are 2 incidents where hudds having the ball could of been avoided thats all.but we could say that most weeks.with regards murphy and hall there the best things to come out of this season thus far and if billy was fit right now it would be lynne he replaced but i dont think the backline is the issue