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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:02 am  
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Not that it's just one players fault, but how many tries have been conceded on the right edge in Lineham's last three SL games for us? Either we're are leaving him massively exposed, highly likely given how high and dry we historically have left our wingers, or he is positionally suspect which is emphasised more in a poor team.


Wigan scored 5 tries down his wing.
At a stretch you could blame him for not being fast enough on the kick over but most wingers in the league are not.
Twice he had three players running at just him.

I'd personally have Kershaw on the field but those tries weren't Lineham's fault.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:05 am  
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We were always going to be on the receiving end last night.

What is unacceptable was the attitude.

Body language was shocking, even after the first try there seemed to be an acceptance that what was to follow was inevitable.

There is lots of talk about the ability of players that have gone and that’s fair, however with those players there seems to have also be removed the heart.

There is a distinct lack of belief and job 101 on Monday is to look to get some fight into this group of individuals, who at the moment are not a team.

There’s a receiving end and then there’s that. Does that mean we have to be worried about playing every team after a loss? The Wigan team was near identical to the team that lost to Hull KR yet their attitude was completely different. I said last week we were really poor and our forwards were really sluggish. Is that no surprise why we’re getting pumped outside with the middle lads not covering across like they should leaving our outside edge high and dry.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:08 am  
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Wigan scored 5 tries down his wing.
At a stretch you could blame him for not being fast enough on the kick over but most wingers in the league are not.
Twice he had three players running at just him.

I'd personally have Kershaw on the field but those tries weren't Lineham's fault.

If the team as a whole are not defending in sync then the outside edges are left high and dry. Lineham is an easy scapegoat, but when he’s left 3/2 on 1 WTF is he meant to do. Think Cameron Ciraldo would struggle to sort out our defence at the minute.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:15 am  
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Wigan scored 5 tries down his wing.
At a stretch you could blame him for not being fast enough on the kick over but most wingers in the league are not.
Twice he had three players running at just him.

I'd personally have Kershaw on the field but those tries weren't Lineham's fault.

So high and dry then.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:16 am  
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There’s a receiving end and then there’s that. Does that mean we have to be worried about playing every team after a loss? The Wigan team was near identical to the team that lost to Hull KR yet their attitude was completely different.


That’s the point I was making, we all knew what was coming in regards a very motivated Wigan team…and the team on the pitch seemed to accept it was inevitable and put up no resistance right from the first minute. That’s unacceptable.

The Wigan team was different but only 2 players different but it was a message sent by their coach after a soft display last week. Having the ability to drop an English international and an Irish international and bring into the 17 an experienced Samoan international and in impact Prop with NRL experience shows the gulf in the 2 squads.

We need to make changes starting with Lineham, I’m not sure if Crowther is injured but if fit he also needs to come in, to bring some pride and determination into the pack.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:22 am  
Can only hope bringing in Jowitt,Kershaw,Hood and Crowther has some positive effect next week……
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:25 am  
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Can only hope bringing in Jowitt,Kershaw,Hood and Crowther has some positive effect next week……


Jowitt gone for 8 weeks apparently.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:31 am  
If that's true we need to be calling Shaul and finding a way to pay him.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:45 am  
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If that's true we need to be calling Shaul and finding a way to pay him.


I’d rather give Pratt a start at 1 than Gaskill again.

Gaskill needs a run of games at 6 in my opinion, he isn’t a 1.
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Re: Wigan Warriors vs Wakefield Trinity : Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:50 am  
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If that's true we need to be calling Shaul and finding a way to pay him.


Last I heard was that Shaul was injured, he pulled out of our friendly against them with a leg injury. Maybe he's fit, but he's not been in their 21 squad this season.
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