Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:34 am  

rugbyball wrote:

That does not answer the question. Or are you saying that if the stadium cost is £20 mill and the land is worth £2 mill then York court are putting in 90%.

What I am trying to get at is are these the only 2 funding sources for the project ie York court and the land or are their other funding streams.

YES !

Quite a number of grants have already been lined up.
Wakefield college are also comming in
another party (can't be named yet) is also wanting in
Last but not least there is another very large chunk of funding waiting in the wings

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:44 am  

jack in the box wrote:

YES !

Quite a number of grants have already been lined up.
Wakefield college are also coming in
another party (can't be named yet) is also wanting in
Last but not least there is another very large chunk of funding waiting in the wings

Im getting a clearer picture now, the scheme is only fully funded in theory, and is not going to mainly funded by York Court. Its seems to me you have identified a number of funding sources but have bye no means sealed them. If the land is only worth 2 million surely you can just leave on end empty and crack on with the rest of the build. .

Thank you for your honesty, as this now puts paid to the York Court are funding it theory, like many have been led to believe.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:04 am  

rugbyball wrote:

Im getting a clearer picture now, the scheme is only fully funded in theory, and is not going to mainly funded by York Court. Its seems to me you have identified a number of funding sources but have bye no means sealed them. If the land is only worth 2 million surely you can just leave on end empty and crack on with the rest of the build. .

Thank you for your honesty, as this now puts paid to the York Court are funding it theory, like many have been led to believe.

Look its not the £2M its the support. Cas are totally cash strapped they need every penny especially the £2m (and that is the absolute bottom estamate could be much more depending on valuations)
The only way Box can justify diverting this funding to Glasshoughton is if there is no credible chance of a development at Newmarket. He has a massive influence over this, he has already palyed one card by deliberately delaying planning. The Leeds objection is another card, this is all B--ll --x and being made into much more than it actually is.

There are also a couple of major issues that is he now threatening to pull support on.

However, Newmarket WILL happen maybe later rarther than sooner. It will be developed, people like Colin Mackie did not get to where they are now by letting vermin like Box stand in his way. The problem is it will be too late for Wakefield Trinity and Box can buy enough time to set up Cas in their new stadium.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:19 am  

smoking monkey wrote:

Trying to look objectively at the most emotive of issues.....I fully understand why GH, towards the very eastern border of WMDC, is a no go for the vast majority of Trinity fans. I also accept that, geographically and travel wise Newmarket looks less of a problem for Cas fans but most may not get passed the notion that it is Wakey's project, Wakey's stadium. With hindsight we've probably all been too blinkered to see that a shared stadium jointly planned from start to finish was the only sensible way of avoiding the godawful mess we're now in.

You make valid points, looking back it would have been the sensible option.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:22 am  

Surely Box on his own can not make the decision to divert the funds from two pots to one?
Would this decision not have to be ratified at full council??

If it is the case that one man can make this decision,then the grievances against him and his methods,including his interest in Cas need to be highlighted to the public to the media etc...

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:24 am  

But it is not Box who is making this decision. Both clubs have been party to the discussion and it would seem agreed to co-operate.

An INDEPENDENT feasibility study is going to look at which is best. If it comes back that GH is the best, who are you going to blame then?

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:25 am  

15000+ sigs and 1000 plus jobs at Newmarket could all go down the pan, then they will pull out of the "new pool" with the old "no money line" makes you wonder how this council works behind closed doors.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:32 am  

Fully wrote:

But it is not Box who is making this decision. Both clubs have been party to the discussion and it would seem agreed to co-operate.

An INDEPENDENT feasibility study is going to look at which is best. If it comes back that GH is the best, who are you going to blame then?

But as a shared stadium J32 wouldn't be "yours", neither would it be "ours".
J32 is still in Wakefield at the end of the day.

Anyway in terms of what each site brings to the region Newmarket wins hands down!

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:33 am  

TURFEDOUT wrote:

Surely Box on his own can not make the decision to divert the funds from two pots to one?
Would this decision not have to be ratified at full council??

If it is the case that one man can make this decision,then the grievances against him and his methods,including his interest in Cas need to be highlighted to the public to the media etc...

YES he can

You are obviously not aware how things are run. I have had first hand experience many times. This council is run by a cabinet ( about 6 or 7 councillors). The cabinet make every decision and the wider council have no influence or input. All they can do is mention their concern at council meetings but the cabinet just sit there hard faced and ignore them.

Now here is the clever bit. The cabinet get paid extra money and benefits. The councillors are queing up to get on it. Box picks every member of the cabinet and sacks anyone who he dosn't like.No democracy here, everyone is hand chosen by box. The cabinet therefore do everything he tells them. Go along and see it work for yourself. I wish many more people from Wakefield would then maybe they would not be so dumb by continuing to allow Box to ruin our city.

Box has been running our City for years and he thinks he is untouchable and while ever he can get all his support from the old miming areas to the East of the district he will do whatever he wants and no wakefield councillor can do anything about it.

Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:36 am  

Fully wrote:

But it is not Box who is making this decision. Both clubs have been party to the discussion and it would seem agreed to co-operate.

An INDEPENDENT feasibility study is going to look at which is best. If it comes back that GH is the best, who are you going to blame then?

The problem with independent feasibility studies is that quite often the outcome is detemined by whoever commissions the study - he who pays the piper. Would you be happy if Ted Richardson commissions the feasibilty study ?