Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:03 pm  

Luppylad wrote:

Weather there correct calls or not and for me it was a pen his feet went above horizontal and the 2nd seen them given and not given but there are 2 incidents where hudds having the ball could of been avoided thats all.but we could say that most weeks.with regards murphy and hall there the best things to come out of this season thus far and if billy was fit right now it would be lynne he replaced but i dont think the backline is the issue

Agreed re the pack.

Needs a major refresh.

We desperately need a 9 and a few props.

We have a team of middles and 1 prop, who rarely plays.

Where we find props from though is your guess as good as mine.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:10 pm  

Luppylad wrote:

Weather there correct calls or not and for me it was a pen his feet went above horizontal and the 2nd seen them given and not given but there are 2 incidents where hudds having the ball could of been avoided thats all.but we could say that most weeks.with regards murphy and hall there the best things to come out of this season thus far and if billy was fit right now it would be lynne he replaced but i dont think the backline is the issue

It was a penalty but how you can blame him for a try i just can’t fathom. He saved a try by shutting down a clear overlap! If he hadn’t gone in hard on Letuele it was going to the winger for a certain try.

It’s not Murphy job to tackle a forward in the following set, on the other side of the pitch. Murphy did his job and stopped a try. Miller made a poor attempt to tackle McQueen so I think your completely wrong on blaming a try saver from Murphys the reason we conceded. It was Millers poor tackle.

As for the penalty for not playing ball correctly. Watch it back, Hudds player had hands on murphys back getting up and pushed down and put him off balance. Thought it was harsh at the time and still do.

The pack needs sorting. Tanginoa is a destructive player running wide at gaps and backs but not into 16-17 stone forwards. What a complete waste at prop.it’s blatantly obvious to everyone he should play left SR.

Fifita didn’t look match fit to be expected but I expect we will see more from him as he gets back match fit.

I really don’t know what the answer is to get us out of this slump.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:36 pm  

Firstly,well done to all the players for putting in a big effort,I can't fault any of you.Unfortunately we have a SL back line and a championship pack.We just don't create a platform for the backs to do their stuff.The forwards are pretty much one-paced and don't tackle head on but from the side.Hudds were regularly rolling upfield and spending any amount of time in our half, whilst we were struggling to make yardage.And the daft thing is we could have won! And then I think 'didn't we impress at the end of last season and at the start of this, and beat Wire away twice'
Its a funny old game is this rugby lark,I think I'll leave it to the experts.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:04 am  

In my 2022 mode of watching ever game as though its the only game I will ever watch... I thought that was a pretty good game battled out by two fairly well matched teams in a rugged arm wrestle... the two key aspects of the game were the ten minutes at the start of the second half when Hudderfield had all the ball and bombarded Trinity's line with simple but hard running tactics. They made no errors and kept the pressure on really well. the second significant moment was Tom Johnstone bombing a walk in try ... that just doesn't happen... ever!

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:21 am  

If anyone had had the sense to shut Fages down in the game we might possibly have stumbled over the winning line ,but letting a player of that quality do whatever and for however long he liked was a big mistake ,and was at the heart of everything that Shudds did . Plenty of lateral movement but very little forward momentum from us but I genuinely thought we’d win this one ,but it became pretty obvious the longer the game went on that Shudds had the measure of us ,and one solo effort and one off the cuff try wasn’t going to be enough . Why we keep kicking off to possibly the best player on the opposition is beyond me ,kick it to a prop or anybody instead of the bloody half back every time ,who passes it straight to a player running on it at pace and we’re on the back foot from the off . We seem incapable of thinking and playing outside the box and Shudds contained our one dimensional plays with ease ,second phase was non existent so offered very little as a threat going forwards. This may have been a weakened opposition but still had enough to contain our meagre and feeble attack and we struggled to contain their go forward , all very depressing really, seemed like a lot of huffing and puffing from us but it really didn’t amount to much at all on the field . I was rubbing my hands at the prospect of the second half playing towards us in the North stand ,and genuinely thought it would rally the troops on the field ,but they pinned us down in our half for long periods and we had not the power nor the guile to get us out of that . Watson got his men up for the fight and we were only in that fight for short periods and the rest of the time we were on the ropes ,looking second best in every facet of that game .

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:45 am  

I’m bluntly honest it’s a mess ,the whole squad needs a massive overall ,relegation is a possibility utta garbage imop shudds had 3/4 first teamers missing

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:13 am  

[quote="FOREVERTRIN"]Firstly,well done to all the players for putting in a big effort,I can't fault any of you.Unfortunately we have a SL back line and a championship pack.We just don't create a platform for the backs to do their stuff.[/quote]

That covers it perfectly for me
No issue with our backs
They absolutely good enough, great to see Murphy coming through

Crowther and Arona ran blood to water but the rest v poor

One thing I would ask of Willie direct is to drop ashurst
There was a time when his crash ball from miller was very effective
It’s not being so for several years and now he’s offering nothing now in attack,

Let’s see miller working with batch on that side and see how they develope together, we need new combos not old ones that no longer work, Imagine Tanginoa hitting that miller ball at speed out wide if he was in the back row, he’d break the line every time but because we don’t have the appropriate amount of props he’s propping

We were desperate for another quality prop going in to this season (really two but I get we are skint) and an experienced quality hooker sadly nothing will change until we sort that out

[Wildthing]

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:16 am  

Jeez, that second half was awful.
Credit to Hudds who were superb in defence but we just used the old tactic of 5 drives and a panic.
We didn't deserve to win.
There are usually around 10 of us who stand together in the East Stand, there were 2 of us last night,
something needs to be done, and fast or we will be back to the bad old days of sub 3k crowds again.

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:26 am  

The Murphy penalty was absolute BS
RL was looking to offload the ball and got his self in to that position, it wasn’t even dangerous

Each side will always get a couple of bad calls like that though in a match though that wasn’t the reason we lost

We lost because our forwards gave the backs nothing to work with in the second half

Re: V Hudds Thurs 28th April at home. : Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:35 am  

[quote="jonh"]Murphy was superb.

He in my opinion is our form winger.

TJ has been fantastic but I think his time at Trinity is coming to a natural conclusion which is best for both parties. He is sadly a diminishing asset whilst Murphy is on the rise.[/quote]

Holy cow Jon you normally talk a lot of sense and you’re right murphy is on the rise (defo a sl quality player coming through)

However
To call TJ a diminishing asset I’ve got to assume you’re a couple of beers deep there