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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:39 am  
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The problem with independent feasibility studies is that quite often the outcome is detemined by whoever commissions the study - he who pays the piper. Would you be happy if Ted Richardson commissions the feasibilty study ?


Well, the whole independent process means that the research will be done on an impartial basis and then given to those who commission it, not altered to suit one party over the other.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:41 am  
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15000+ sigs and 1000 plus jobs at Newmarket could all go down the pan, then they will pull out of the "new pool" with the old "no money line" makes you wonder how this council works behind closed doors. :DOH:


The jobs would not go down the pan as the rest of the newmarket development could still go ahead, with some other community scheme put in by the developers and as for the 15000 sigs, Wakefield district would still be getting a new stadium and facilities at glasshoughton.

Everyone happy :D
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:42 am  
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But as a shared stadium J32 wouldn't be "yours", neither would it be "ours".
J32 is still in Wakefield at the end of the day.

Anyway in terms of what each site brings to the region Newmarket wins hands down!



You really think that do you?

IMO, GH would bring more - it would bring jobs to the region - just as Newmarket. It has BETTER transport links, is right next to one of the most visited attractions in the UK and will bring a lot of business and prosperity to the region.

As Gaz said on the Cas forum:

They're going to have to upset someone. They have to make a sensible decision based on the facts at hand. More money will be brought into the district from a Glasshoughton development. More new fans would be attracted to teams playing at a Glasshoughton development. Newmarket is an option to keep a club afloat, Glasshoughton is an option to help the region thrive.

Perhaps I've got rose-tinted specs on, but I just don't see the appeal of Newmarket to anyone but the few thousand Wakefield fans trying to save their club. Glasshoughton can be a focal point for the entire district - a stadium in a heart of a cultural and economical goldmine, rather than a stadium in the middle of a soulless industrial estate.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:43 am  
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The problem with independent feasibility studies is that quite often the outcome is detemined by whoever commissions the study - he who pays the piper. Would you be happy if Ted Richardson commissions the feasibilty study ?

He would not be able to pay the piper :D
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:47 am  
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The jobs would not go down the pan as the rest of the newmarket development could still go ahead, with some other community scheme put in by the developers and as for the 15000 sigs, Wakefield district would still be getting a new stadium and facilities at glasshoughton.

Everyone happy :D



The 15000 sigs :) they were signed for the Newmarket complex not for GH, can you understand that or would you like pictures to help you.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:49 am  
So all this ....."once planning permission is achieved, this will trigger the funding" ....was complete and utter rubbish. Yet more mis-information from the people "in the know".

We were all lead to believe that the funding was already in place - that is patently not the case.

We were all told categorically that the developer, Yorkcourt, would be funding the stadium - again, this was not true.

It appears that significant alternative sources of funding will have to be found - just how easy does anyone think that will be right now?

Lets just pretend that Yorkcourt do get the planning permission they want (and remember, as a commercial developer they do not want planning permission for a stadium, that is just a required sweetener for the council in order to get the industrial aspect of the scheme passed). Then they decide that, in this difficult economic climate, they can't afford to stump up the money for the stadium straight away. And the amount required to "top-up" their input (which has still not been quantified) cannot be sourced. What then? No-one can force them to build anything, yet they will have secured a very valuable site for development at a later date when it suits them.

It seems that the SWAG people are being outmanouvered (again) by the council. That's not a criticism, because WMDC are absolutely top drawer at all this schemeing and double-dealing stuff. But just like the Thornes Park fiasco, I have no doubt that this project will never be delivered.

I await more "keep the faith", "it WILL happen" , "well if you think you could do better" posts, which in my opinion achieve nothing apart from reassuring those who want to be reassured, and antagonising those who want proper answers.


The 150000 signatures were in support of a new stadium, not in support of a massive industrial complex. I signed it, obviously, but at the time nothing was said to me about a wider development.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:50 am  
In the current climate if you have to share a stadium so be it. RL is a minority sport and dont forget the vast majority of the country dont give two hoots about Wakefield Trinity Wildcats..........sadly this is a fact.

Share the Stadium and save your club.

Good luck either way as much as it pains me to say Rugby League without Wakefield Trinity is worse off.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:52 am  
I just wish there was more time. Then both clubs and fans could sit down and work on this together and with The RFL's blessing, get it done properly in the best interests of both clubs.

I find it sad that this has come out a few days before the game.
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Re: Stadium Statement : Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:04 am  
Trinity have been in SL long enough to address the stadium issues - the RFL have given us enough warnings, surely. Any half-competent management team would have realised the importance of dealing with this. The problems we now face on this front are of the clubs own making. We cannot moan about not having sufficient time.


I also do not believe that the management of either club is capable of sitting down with the other and discussing, in a sensible and mature way, a realistic way forward. Simply too much ego to be bruised.
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